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    Bringing balance to the farce

    So its a slow day here at work and to amuse myself I watched a few of the "X" martial art sucks highlight videos. Either tkd or rbsd are my favorite, not sure yet. But as I sat there watching the TKD vid I realized that I only really ever see bad TKD vids. Then I realized the same was true for RBSD and many other MA's that are infamous for being trained poorly. I have no clue what good TKD, or RBSD, or Aikido looks like.

    So I was wondering, if there are "X" martial arts sucks months, why aren't there "X" martial art rocks months also as a balance? I love the highlight vids of failure but at the same time I'd also really love to see what good examples of these infamous MA's look like.

    I'm not trying to be the crusader for the whipping boys of the martial arts. Far from it, I actually just want to see what good TKD looks like, or what "good" aikido or kung fu looks like. We can all laugh at the failings of the MA's, god knows I've spent time in Caps of Disaster, but I also think that having highlight vids of good examples of the same MA's would be cool.

    I don't know how to edit vids or make compilations vids like the ones for the "X" martial art sucks months or else I would happily give it a shot. I am however more than willing to try and find decent vids for them though.

    #2
    Here's some entertaining kung fu. Throws at 0:11 and 0:15 look kind of interesting, although I think the first one was just luck meeting opportunity:
    YouTube - No Rule Kung Fu competition in 1986

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      #3
      From the full contact kung fu thread:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuTS2QWWrR4
      Kung Fu competition 70's

      YouTube - Baji contest in Cangzhou 1988
      Baji contest in Cangzhou 1988

      YouTube - Lei Tai Fights 1986
      Lei Tai Fights 1986

      YouTube - 2002 Lei Tai Fight
      Lei Tai Fight 2002 U.S. Kuoshu Tournament

      YouTube - Kung-Fu Full-Contact Technical Knockout
      Kung-Fu Championship Germany '07

      YouTube - 2003 San Shou World Championship Highlights
      2003 San Shou World Championship Highlights

      YouTube - Full contact
      Shaolin full contact verseny 2004

      YouTube - Sanda Shaolin Chile 3
      Shaolin Sanda Competition Chile

      YouTube - Ayron Howey - MMA Debut
      Ayron Howey (Sanshou) MMA Debut

      YouTube - Cung Le vs Mohamed Keita 1/2
      Cung Le vs Mohamed Keita

      YouTube - Cung Le vs Na Shun
      Cung Le vs Na Shun

      YouTube - Kyokushin vs San Shou Dec 2005 russians
      Kyokushin vs San Shou Dec 2005

      YouTube - Choy Lay Fut @ 2007 World Wushu Championships - Beijing
      World Wushu Championships Beijing 2007

      YouTube - Art of War® FC VII Highlight Reel - MMA China
      Art of War PRC Highlight Reel

      YouTube - Taiji Legacy San Shou part 1
      Taiji Legacy

      YouTube - Tai Chi Chuan Full Contact Fighting
      Tai Chi Chuan Fighting

      YouTube - Waki in Action part 4: Kickboxing Train Hard - Fight Easy
      Master Waki Tai Chi New Zealand

      YouTube - Taiwan Tang Shou Dao
      Hsing Yi Sparring Tang Shou Dao

      YouTube - Kuoshu Fighting Collage
      Neijia Kuoshu Fighting Clips

      YouTube - 2007 China National Shuaijiao Championships
      China National Shuaijiao Championships 2007

      YouTube - Championnat de France Shuai Jiao 2006
      Shuai Jiao Championnat de France 2006

      YouTube - "Open Hand" Wushu Full Contact Hybrid
      Shuai Chiao/ Five Animal/ Chin Na Open hand sparring

      YouTube - American Shaolin: Kickboxing
      American Shaolin: Sanda clips

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        #4
        Good Aikido:

        YouTube - Yoseikan Budo

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          #5
          Originally posted by Askari
          Too much of that "sparring" looked compliant on the throws. And apparently "good" aikido is the same as mediocre kickboxing and judo. The Kung-Fu clips at least had some definitively kung fu elements (side kicks, tripping throws, etc.).

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            #6
            I doubt it was compliant. I also very much doubt it was aikido. That looked very much like Yoseikan Budo (which is not the same as Yoseikan aikido).

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              #7
              That upper cut that started the hip toss had some definite power behind it. Maybe I'm about to sound like a dumb ass, but since when did Aikido involve punching????






              ... Or look interesting?!?!

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                #8
                I think the phrase "good aikido" is considered an oxymoron. ;)

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZenOfAnger
                  I think the phrase "good aikido" is considered an oxymoron. ;)
                  That is why I put the " " around good when referring to aikido.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hooded Justice
                    That is why I put the " " around good when referring to aikido.
                    Thanks for telling me what I already know, good sir. :jerkit2yf

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZenOfAnger
                      Thanks for telling me what I already know, good sir. :jerkit2yf
                      Reiteration, not a correction.

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                        #12
                        I'm having trouble finding other "good" videos of usually bad MAs. There were a few Polish full-contact Jiujitsu videos I found before (which rocked), but I have no idea whether it's BJJ (in which case it doesn't count for this thread) or JJJ (in which case it does).

                        In any case, here's the link:
                        JuJitsu Full Contact II Otwarty Turniej O Puchar Polski

                        It's a long one, and again no idea if it's BJJ or JJJ, and therefore if it qualifies for the thread or not. Fun anyway.
                        Last edited by G-Off; 5/30/2008 11:44pm, .

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                          #13
                          What kind of TKD?

                          The problem with trying to find vids of TKD that doesn't suck is compounded by the question of how you define TKD and what orgs they are affiliated with. WTF, ITF, ATA, independent?

                          This is some good TKD within the very limited and problematic ruleset of the WTF.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]jvjvugJ2rFM

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]_R4viRFbW80

                          Of course, the problem with WTF style TKD is that it is more of a game of tag with the feet than it is real fighting.

                          Here are two former Olympic (i.e. WTF) TKDist that makes it work in K1.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]AEgIb2fj2yM

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]NBdtzh8y7sc

                          Here is a rank test of Cho's brand of TKD posted by Errant some time back:

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]3qYRM7ZQiZo

                          I thought one of the related vids of the kids looked interesting.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]xwNiupE4r08

                          ITF TKD in Europe, which I understand is different from ITF in the US.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]T7mZv-j54ZA

                          Oh, and let's not forget the soon to be classic vid of our own MaverickZ using a couple of his TKD kicks in an MMA match. I did a search but couldn't find it, so would someone with better Web-fu than me please find it. My daughter is calling me.
                          Last edited by TEA; 5/31/2008 9:45am, .

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sophist
                            I doubt it was compliant. I also very much doubt it was aikido. That looked very much like Yoseikan Budo (which is not the same as Yoseikan aikido).
                            Yeah its Yoseikan Budo, the competition version.

                            How is it not the same as Yoseikan Aikido?

                            Originally posted by G-Off
                            Too much of that "sparring" looked compliant on the throws. And apparently "good" aikido is the same as mediocre kickboxing and judo.
                            Hmmm?

                            I dont know if I would refer to that particular lineage as mediocre Judo, Jigoro Kano didnt give high dan ranks to just any kid off the street.
                            Last edited by Askari; 5/31/2008 8:44am, .

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                              #15
                              Too busy to dig it up, but there's Andy Hug, Daido-juku and lots of other good Karate on vid...in addition to the far-too-well-represented crap-Karate.

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