Aikido/Bullshido in Dresden Files

[DerAuslander]

I am going to tear your skin off & use it as a condom after I resurrect your dead ancestors to fuck them in the jaw bone.

[Cy Q. Faunce]

I'm going to travel into the future, fuck your children, eat them, shit them out, and then fuck the shit.

[3moose1]

lol.

well, about Aikido, i was told, by a 3rd dan aikidoka, that aikido isn't about fighting, and that he got out of the aikido circuit, because there are more crazy people in aikido then anything else.

Such as, (and he told me this) an aikidoka told him that he could channel his ki, so that if he was cut by a knife, the blade would dull...

and that they could channel their ki to stop chokes and armbars...

crazy.

Also, errant, thats very, VERY intense. Vid plz.

[Vince Tortelli]

I guess I should have added "effortlessly" to my original sentence. Karrin Murphy beats huge, tough guys with ridiculous ease.

Exactly when did she beat huge tough guys without effort? Keep in mind that I have only read the books and have never seen the TV show (I prefer to avoid page to screen adaptations that do not have the name "Peter Jackson" attached to them). I remember her getting slapped around by the King of the White Court, slapped around by the ghoul assasain lady, and seriously smacked around by the Nightmare. The only times I recall her holding her own physically were against the werewolf FBI agent lady (who was in human form at the time) and the giant tree monster thing she attacked with a chainsaw.

Royce Gracie worked for his victories.

Oh no you didn't....

[poidog]

You asked about good literature. If you had asked about bad/escapist (and I'm an avid reader of that shit) my answer could have been different.

Touche.

Of course without that 'I read 9 books a month' JFS'ish chestbumping parking lot reading gongsau.

Fuck you. I read WAY more than JFS ever did.

Are we going to make a list of shitty books we own/have read/in Santa's list for the winner to earn a tag in the line of 'i read shitty books'?. That would be hilarious, Poi. If you want the tag for you, no problem, ask Phrost for one. I'm not going to complaint.

No thanks, I already have enough stigma to overcome.

As if reading that shitty prequels didn't deserve something more than thinly veiled insults. These 'novels' are horrid as literature and those who read and enjoy them (myself included) should be tarred, feathered and anklelocked to death.

Never read any of the prequels, just knew the reference.

Like FLMikeATT said, guilty pleasures. Taking them with all seriousness about content or style doesn't make sense.

The thread started off fairly lighthearted in my opinion, however, I had my panties in a bunch yesterday. But fuck you all the same.

However, if you want another 'Aikido sucks and it's for fa66ots' megthread, go for it. They are fun too.

Done to death already.

Aloha, Poi

[poidog]

Hmmm, this thread has taken a disturbingly homo-erotic overtone...

[JKDChick]

I read three pages of the first book, turned to someone in the same room, threw the book at them and said "Confirm for me this dude trains in Karate please."

They looked at his bio and, yep, he trains in Karate and a bunch of other TMA's. He writes like a geek who thinks he's tough.

I read that book to the end and you couldn't pay me enough to read any more of'em. Butcher is a hack and the writing sucked 500 donkey balls. Too bad because he built a good world.

[poidog]

...the writing sucked 500 donkey balls...

That is a LOT of donkey balls.

[JohnnyCache]

I read three pages of the first book, turned to someone in the same room, threw the book at them and said "Confirm for me this dude trains in Karate please."

They looked at his bio and, yep, he trains in Karate and a bunch of other TMA's. He writes like a geek who thinks he's tough.

I read that book to the end and you couldn't pay me enough to read any more of'em. Butcher is a hack and the writing sucked 500 donkey balls. Too bad because he built a good world.

You should keep reading them. The first couple he has all this wiccan threefold rule hippy horse-shit going on, and you eventually find out that's not really him per se.

I can't really believe we're dealing with suspension of disbelief regarding a female being tough in a book about wizards and vampires and holy knights.

Also, come on, this is the geek who writes like he thinks he's tough capital of the internet.

[vigilus]

lol.

well, about Aikido, i was told, by a 3rd dan aikidoka, that aikido isn't about fighting, and that he got out of the aikido circuit, because there are more crazy people in aikido then anything else.

Such as, (and he told me this) an aikidoka told him that he could channel his ki, so that if he was cut by a knife, the blade would dull...

and that they could channel their ki to stop chokes and armbars...

crazy.

Also, errant, thats very, VERY intense. Vid plz.

Part of the 3rd dan aikido test is to fight a dozen guys with swords.

Part of it is fake though because the swords START sharp but the dudes ki dulls the blades like you said so when he DOES slip up a little (hey it happens) he doesn't really get cut.

I know I don't agree with it either and think it's cheating.

[Phrost]

Well shit, apparently I need to start checking my own website for book reviews before I start a series.

[Neo Sigma]

The first book sucks because he intentionally wrote it to be as hackneyed and cliche-ridden as possible to flip the bird at a creative writing professor he had in college. He thought she was teaching bullshit, so he decided to write, in his words, "the most formulaic piece of genre trash possible" to show her she had her head up her ass. That ended up being Storm Front.

The thing with the wild inaccuracies about Chicago gets better later in the series as he actually does some research.

[LesbianSeagal]

Hi, I'm trolling

Ok, this is a humorous thread, but I want to point out that Jim Butcher, as much as I like his books, seems to be an Aikido nutrider.

The Dresden Files is a pretty good sci-fi/fantasy series. Not great by any means, but it's reasonably entertaining. It's a guilty pleasure.

Anyways, Karren Murphy, a cop, fucking wristlocks people left and right, and is somehow able to disable 6'6 dudes with ease. There are quite a few times throughout the series when she literally lays out Dresden (who is 6'6 or so) with a punch to the jaw, stomach, or some wristlocky Aikidoish move. Keep in mind that she is described constantly as '5 foot nothing, 100 nothing'. I have to suspend my disbelief because no matter how good a '5 foot nothing, 100 nothing lbs' chick is, the chance in real life to lay out a 6'6 dude is astronomical. He would have to be the most untrained, lazy, out of shape, uncoordinated person ever to get the shit beat out of him (all of the above Dresden isn't), barring a nut shot.

She also consistently beats the shit out of trained thugs with wristlocks and other Aikido moves.

As much as I like Jim for bringing us Dresden Files and Codex Alera, he really needs to stop drinking the Aikido kool aide. The vibe I get from him is that he is a classic example of the small, pseudo intellectual dude who buys into the whole eastern mysticism bullshit to make himself feel better about being small and that technique will always trump meathead strength, etc. It's painfully obvious in his writing.

Maybe it was choreographed by Seagal? :D
As for those who say you don't need to be in shape to fight, as long so you have fancy techniques, why don't they try it with a grizzly bear or a gorilla?

[LesbianSeagal]

I'm going to clone you so I can kill you twice.

[LesbianSeagal]

Man I feel you about having to vent over Aikido. I got told yesterday to my face that bjj wouldn't work on the street and that High and mighty aikido could take on multiple opponents.:angryfire

I had the same reaction when I saw my first Seagal movie, "Above the Law;" 2 minutes into the film, and he was giving "fight-scenes" that looked like an aikido-instruction vid they were so fake.

And of course you had the fanbois-wankers all swooning over how "he can really DO that because 'aikido was made for WAR!'"
Yeah so was the Swiss Army-knife and the yo-yo.