Aikido/Bullshido in Dresden Files

[vinhthekid]

who is teh anita blake?

[FLMikeATT]

who is teh anita blake?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_blake

Pretty informative.

[Hungry]

How about you learn to write properly - punctuation, capital letters and syntax - before you post anything else?

AWWWW Okaaaaaaay. But only once you get help and realise ITS A WORK OF FICTION. Just like the Lord Of The Rings NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED.


Ok ill stop being an annoying troll now. Enjoy your thread :)

[vigilus]

Ok, this is a humorous thread, but I want to point out that Jim Butcher, as much as I like his books, seems to be an Aikido nutrider.

The Dresden Files is a pretty good sci-fi/fantasy series. Not great by any means, but it's reasonably entertaining. It's a guilty pleasure.

Anyways, Karren Murphy, a cop, fucking wristlocks people left and right

Etc..

So your pissed off about fake aikido in a science fiction book?
man thats the fucking worst I feel your pain!
Do you also get pissed off when PvPers ruin your little role playing get togethers on world of warcraft? I know I do!

Seriously your cry-assing about a science fiction series on here? It's the comedy forum not poor your heart out and look for hugs forum.
put your left hand on your right shoulder and your right hand on your left shoulder- now squeeze....

Man I feel you about having to vent over Aikido. I got told yesterday to my face that bjj wouldn't work on the street and that High and mighty aikido could take on multiple opponents.:angryfire

Bullshit.
Wait let me fix this.

I'm full of shit but I want to fit in REALLY bad so I'm going to make up some bullshit story about yet another aikido student talking about BJJ being weak/chi/wristlocks/magic/stopping bullets bla bla bla. It's sad that i don't realize 1800 other users have came up with the same BS story in THEIR sad attempts to try and fit in with the crowd.

Your welcome.

I just needed to get this off my chest.

Bashing Aikido never gets old.

No it doesn't.
But douche bags trying to jump on the lOLZAIKIDO train with either shitty stories or weak-ass rants does infact get old. Very old. This isn't your sister son. Rides aren't free. If you want to get on the LOl Aikido train then you gotta pay for the ticket.
How much is the ticket? Creativity.
Atleast your bitching about aikido from a fiction source and not pulling the old "OMG you won't believe this! I was at my gym and this aikido guy said.."
For your tidbit of creativity you can ride in the train car with all the gypsies.

Kyle the dumb has to walk.

[poidog]

AWWWW Okaaaaaaay. But only once you get help and realise ITS A WORK OF FICTION. Just like the Lord Of The Rings NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

I already realize it's a work of fiction. I understand LOTR never happened. Dresden Files and LOTR are entertaining novels, detailing events that never occurred, much like the "history" of __ng __un. You, once again, do not understand the point I am making. I have never done magic. I have never fought a vampire. I don't commune with the spirits. So I can willingly suspend my disbelief due to the fantastic nature of those events.

However, something I am very familiar with is the nature and reality of physical violence and martial ability. So when I read about a woman, no more than 5'1", ~110 lbs., physically disabling a 6'+, 200+ lbs. violent criminal who is in good shape and well versed in physical violence by twisting his pinkie, I have a hard time staying in the mental state of disbelief.

So yes, I have a problem with how aikido is displayed IN A WORK OF FICTION. Any more moronic character assumptions you'd care to throw my way?

Poi

[FLMikeATT]

And here come the Aikido apologist trolls.

I can't be bothered to respond to your childish ad hominems.

You aren't going to draw me into a pathetic Aikido flame war.

I've been reading Bullshido too long for me to fall for this.

[DCS]

So when I read about a woman, no more than 5'1", ~110 lbs., physically disabling a 6'+, 200+ lbs. violent criminal who is in good shape and well versed in physical violence by:

There are quite a few times throughout the series when she literally lays out Dresden (who is 6'6 or so) with a punch to the jaw, stomach, or some wristlocky Aikidoish move.twisting his pinkie, I have a hard time staying in the mental state of disbelief.

So yes, I have a problem with how boxing is displayed IN A WORK OF FICTION. Any more moronic character assumptions you'd care to throw my way?

Poi

Slighty edited for the LULZ!

Aloha.

[FLMikeATT]

Slighty edited for the LULZ!

Aloha.

To be fair, the incidents where she beats up Dresden with her fists I can count on one hand compared to the amount of incidents where she throws around trained 200+ lb thugs with wristlocks (which are countless).

[vinhthekid]

it's so often the same 200+ lb thug. i almost feel sorry for hendricks.

[DCS]

This 'Hendricks' thug is a fa66ot, i see.

Why don't you guys read good books instead of that kind of shit?

[mike321]

I already realize it's a work of fiction. I understand LOTR never happened. Dresden Files and LOTR are entertaining novels, detailing events that never occurred, much like the "history" of __ng __un. You, once again, do not understand the point I am making. I have never done magic. I have never fought a vampire. I don't commune with the spirits. So I can willingly suspend my disbelief due to the fantastic nature of those events.

However, something I am very familiar with is the nature and reality of physical violence and martial ability. So when I read about a woman, no more than 5'1", ~110 lbs., physically disabling a 6'+, 200+ lbs. violent criminal who is in good shape and well versed in physical violence by twisting his pinkie, I have a hard time staying in the mental state of disbelief.

So yes, I have a problem with how aikido is displayed IN A WORK OF FICTION. Any more moronic character assumptions you'd care to throw my way?

Poi

I totally agree. In a way this thread is silly, but lots of fantasy/sci fi depend on realistic details to enable suspension of belief for the sake of the story being told. When an author brings their bullshido mindset into their work it is terribly distracting. Oh well...not much we can do. And by the way, I have ran into this with arts other than aikido.

[vinhthekid]

This 'Hendricks' thug is a fa66ot, i see.

Why don't you guys read good books instead of that kind of shit?

simple, enjoyable escapism.

i read too much fucking weber, i need something lightheartedly trashy.

[poidog]

This 'Hendricks' thug is a fa66ot, i see.

Why don't you guys read good books instead of that kind of shit?

Well by all means, why don't you please illuminate me as to what kind of good books I should read? For that matter, why don't you please tell me what constitutes a good book?
Poi

[DCS]

At my hand reach at this moment: Boris Vian, Garcia Marquez, Moliere, Kafka, Hawking, Steinbeck, Joyce, H. Eco and, of course, Shakespeare.

Different tastes, i suppose.

I need to stand to reach Weber.

[Rivington]

The Dresden Files are just not very good books.

I have no idea whether or not Butcher is some kind of weenie who really believes in the Aikido Fairy or whatever, but I'd need more evidence than just the existence of an aikido-using character. Mainly because it is painfully obvious that Butcher does NO research and barely keeps Dresden's powers consistent between scenes.

For example, the series takes place in Chicago. Butcher never visited Chicago and hell, never even Googled up various locations. He thinks Wrigley Field has a fucking giant underground parking lot. That there is such a neighborhood as "midtown" in Chicago, and that a "JFK Expressway" connects this mythical neighborhood to Rosemont.

Indeed, many writers of contemporary fantasy do go out of their way to research geography (buying maps, getting photo references, taking trips), martial arts, firearms, music, chess, and all sorts of others things that characters may encounter or know about somehow. Butcher just doesn't, but I'm sure he's crying all the way to the bank. No reason to suggest that he is psychologically incapable of knowing The Way of Aliveness; he likely just said, "Hmm, how about aikido?" and let it at that. If the character keeps disabling bad guys and vampires and whatnot with the same tricks, it's because Butcher isn't getting paid to come up with new and awesome plot twists all the time. He's the literary equivalent of a guy working on an assembly line frosting Pop-Tarts. (He just gets paid a lot more.)