Are "U" ready for the next Bullshido throwdown? (bring Kingdom Hearts AMVs)

[Squerlli]

fuck the bjjihad.

come and hang out if nothing else. shit dude, there's lots of people who come to tds with relatively minimal skills who still turn out to be cool guys who i find chill.. *cough* truepwrz *cough*.

Hey! That fucker took a GnP from you, a bloody one, show him the respect he earned damn it!


Besides, I'm the resident "Worest fighter on Bulshido". Me god damn it!

[Hedgehogey]

jnp, I certainly wouldn't want to attend a throwdown to "learn a skill set I don't have"... that would be a real dick move on my part.

I didn't think it was yours, but it's not at all an unheard of phenomenom. Selfcritical's friend and Pizdoff both did exactly that.

[Goju - Joe]

I didn't think it was yours, but it's not at all an unheard of phenomenom. Selfcritical's friend and Pizdoff both did exactly that.

Of course that's only just your assumption.

And then learning a skill set is not the same thing as experiencing something first hand.

[Cassius]

Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Jeez. You have a coach/coaches, correct? Then have them examine and critique your performance. Why the fuck would you want people over the internet to do it for you?

Stop yakking about bullshit and go talk to your fucking coaches.

You really should have lurked more before you started posting. There are a large number of competent grapplers on Bullshido that don't post anything useful. Check out "theotherserge" as a prime example of that. Besides that, I asked for specific information that could be provided by someone other than a BJJer. A Judoka, for instance. Or a wrestler. There are a lot of them on this website. You probably haven't noticed that, since one out of every three posts since you've joined has been yours.

I don't suppose it occurred to you that I actually DID go to my coaches for criticism, and posted the video on Bullshido for alternate perspective? No, probably not, because you talk before you think. Nobody's coaches are perfect, and that's precisely why I asked for outside advice. You see, little one, there's nothing wrong with asking for help on the intarweb if you're already tapping more conventional sources.

I know you think of the internet as a form of socialization and entertainment, but some of us actually use it as a training aid.

[MaverickZ]

You really should have lurked more before you started posting. There are a large number of competent grapplers on Bullshido that don't post anything useful. Check out "theotherserge" as a prime example of that. Besides that, I asked for specific information that could be provided by someone other than a BJJer. A Judoka, for instance. Or a wrestler. There are a lot of them on this website. You probably haven't noticed that, since one out of every three posts since you've joined has been yours.

This thread is not addressed to competent grapplers. As a matter of fact, it is directed specifically to INcompetent grapplers.

That's not saying your concern is not valid. Just that this isn't the thread to air it. It also helps to take into account the chilling effect of the moderation style in DHS. Or at least what it was, I haven't bothered to go in there for months now.

[The Question]

You really should have lurked more before you started posting. There are a large number of competent grapplers on Bullshido that don't post anything useful. Check out "theotherserge" as a prime example of that. Besides that, I asked for specific information that could be provided by someone other than a BJJer. A Judoka, for instance. Or a wrestler. There are a lot of them on this website. You probably haven't noticed that, since one out of every three posts since you've joined has been yours.

I don't suppose it occurred to you that I actually DID go to my coaches for criticism, and posted the video on Bullshido for alternate perspective? No, probably not, because you talk before you think. Nobody's coaches are perfect, and that's precisely why I asked for outside advice. You see, little one, there's nothing wrong with asking for help on the intarweb if you're already tapping more conventional sources.

I know you think of the internet as a form of socialization and entertainment, but some of us actually use it as a training aid.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, hold the motherfucking phone. So it's cool to use the internet as a training aid, but not a throwdown, where the other people are present in human form, not just as contorted wisps of digital information? So someone shows up at a throwdown, raw, green, new, fresh, trying to see what all the BJJ fuss is about, and he is met with "fuck off, stupid noob"? Because that's what is being presented here. It is OK to use the internet as a training aid, or as a way of introduction to certain marshall arts, but attempting to use a throwdown as such is criminal?

Man, you guys are full of shit.

Incidentally, I've been lurking on bullshido since 2003, I joined in 2004, introduced myself and then went back to lurking since most of the posters were self involved faggots bent on chest beating and throwing insults in every direction. But the fact that everyone pushed grappling like they were hustling to make a living is what made me actually look into it back in the day. So I don't use the internet just for entertainment, it's also for staying informed and educated and such. But it's the the internet is devoid of personal interaction, using it as a training aid seems so ... silly.

Showing up at a throwdown without having trained wanting to see what everything is about is less silly. But if cats keep trying to gentrify the throwdown crowd, they'll lose one of the best aspects of the TD.

Stupid motherfuckers.

[vinhthekid]

... my ears are bleeding from agreeing with ? online.

[jnp]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, hold the motherfucking phone. So it's cool to use the internet as a training aid, but not a throwdown,

Total failure at reading comprehension. You are inferring meanings that are not there.

No one said you can't use a TD as a training aid. That's a huge part of the TD's role when you look at them as a litmus test against different martial artists. We said trying to substitute a TD for normal training is a waste of the other participant's time.

I have spent time at every TD answering questions and demonstrating technique to novice grapplers because I think if they have questions, they should have them answered, but it's my choice to do so. It's not the purpose of the TD.

[Ke?poFist]

Total failure at reading comprehension. You are inferring meanings that are not there.

No one said you can't use a TD as a training aid. That's a huge part of the TD's role when you look at them as a litmus test against different martial artists. We said trying to substitute a TD for normal training is a waste of the other participant's time.

I have spent time at every TD answering questions and demonstrating technique to novice grapplers because I think if they have questions, they should have them answered, but it's my choice to do so. It's not the purpose of the TD.

I've done the same at nearly every Throwdown I've been to. But it was said earlier that no teaching of "How do armbar" or "How do elbow escape" should be taught at Throwdowns. In fact such individuals apparently should be dealt with my completely owning them, giving no quarter, and then leaving them with a list of BJJ schools in their area.

Somehow I think there's a happy median to the overly coddling, and brutal tough love approaches.

[The Question]

Total failure at reading comprehension. You are inferring meanings that are not there.

No one said you can't use a TD as a training aid. That's a huge part of the TD's role when you look at them as a litmus test against different martial artists. We said trying to substitute a TD for normal training is a waste of the other participant's time.

I have spent time at every TD answering questions and demonstrating technique to novice grapplers because I think if they have questions, they should have them answered, but it's my choice to do so. It's not the purpose of the TD.

I was mostly remarking on the silliness of trying to use the internet as a training aid, but lambasting cats for showing up at a TD without extensive knowledge in their field of interest.

[vinhthekid]

why do i feel like the east coast / northeast crews are much more chill and cool than the rest of the td crews?

[nightowl]

why do i feel like the east coast / northeast crews are much more chill and cool than the rest of the td crews?

Because you live in Boston. Get back to your Ivy Leauge rowing crew and drunken Kennedy spotting.

[Naszir]

Probably because you've never met them.

[UpaLumpa]

We said trying to substitute a TD for normal training is a waste of the other participant's time.

This statement has been repeated consistently for several years.
I don't know to what degree it is true anymore (I only ever see the videos after the fact since in a 200 post thread there's one post in the middle with vids) but certainly there were periods where people went to throwdowns to "learn some grappling". Most people should be aware that such an approach is going to lead solely to crappling.


Question,
If I went to one of the throwdowns with no striking training and asked you to teach me to jab and I had no training ever in striking what would you think the best advice you could give me would be?

If you did help me out some and my subsequent training was solely screwing around with friends, what then?

Also, thanks for the compliment, but no.

[DerAuslander]

Speaking of Vinh, did you want single malt or brandy this weekend?