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    #76
    so aces... what you are telling us is that you are the only one who has a black belt or black sash in anything? so no one else in your school can teach you are the only one right?

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      #77
      Originally posted by kyoshikomodo
      hey, bull, who is questioning your service as an Iraqui Vet? Can't find anything on this thread. Sure there are a lot on these forums who have served our country honorably.
      He's referring to my request for verification of his military credentials. Lying about being in the military is fairly common for trolls and is a bannable offense. So it's normal to request proof when someone tries to use their military service as validation for whatever it is they are doing.
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        #78
        No one with any honor would lie about being in military. Not only a maybe bannable offense here but the government has changed some of there ways of dealing with these fake records and claims too.
        No reason to believe that Bull did not serve in Iraq in the Navy - still think he may be newly arrived home - he's too much to wired, needs to try and put it behind him. Sure its easier said than done.

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          #79
          To the resident of the "Tar Heel State" - good ole North Carolina:

          wax on / wax off

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            #80
            Thanks for the publicity!
            Last edited by aceshigh414; 4/09/2008 8:26pm, .

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              #81
              Thanks for the publicity!
              Last edited by aceshigh414; 4/09/2008 8:26pm, .

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                #82
                aceshigh you mention on ur site that tom meitz is the team dr and chiropracter but you said earlier no one on the team is involved in the chiropracter business. so which is it is he a chiropracter or is he not. it just seems like you keep contradicting yourself. Also the one thing that everyone on here wants to know is who did you train with?, if you trained with credible people then we will know that you in fact are as good as you say you are. that is all we are asking where did you get your rank or did you buy it like the example you used in your post.
                and im not going to call you, i think everyone on the site would back off of you f you just tell us who you trained with and what rank you acheived. honestly that is what we want to know and then i think the thread would die off. thank you

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                  #83
                  hahaha very funny there kyoshikomodo or however you spell that crazy name of yours

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                    #84
                    okay, sounds good. A membership to a health club, training at a boxing gym, discounted chiroprator, a nutritionist, dietary specialist and cardio trainer and what do you do? Think Ralph is onto something. One post says a black sash and "equivalency" in Muay Thai, now last one says, sash and a black belt. Whats the secret in who and where you got Gung Fu accreditation? Point about buying black belts does happen sometimes. Do you guys subscribe to that? If not why would you even bring up such stupid thought? Don't buy the line, when you are ready to sponsor the whole team with real money, then we'll tell you who we trained with. Makes no sense at all.
                    Get Bull to settle down. It does neither you or your sponsors any good if he is dealing with flashbacks and such.

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                      #85
                      to kyoshikomodo:
                      yes young grasshopper i think we are on to something

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by aceshigh414
                        Both myself and David the lead trainer hold black sashes and belts.

                        But guys the only thing about black belts is they can be bought - so really that was not my point at all.
                        So, of course, the obvious thing to do would be to explain where and from who you got your training, and from where your credentials come. If you're going to charge people ridiculous sums of money to roll around on your living room floor, you ought to at least be able to produce a lineage that other martial artists would recognize and accept.

                        Otherwise, you might just be yet another guy pretending to have t3h d34dly koong-fooo.

                        So, simple questions, what ranks do you and the trainer hold in what arts and where and from who did you get that training. This is neither rocket science or a state secret.

                        Generally, people unwilling to answer that question are talking out of their ass.
                        Jesus loves you. I think you're an asshole.

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                          #87
                          Thanks for the publicity!
                          Last edited by aceshigh414; 4/09/2008 8:27pm, .

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                            #88
                            What lineages i have not seen any and i think i speak for everyone here we have yet to see anything yet. Also aceshigh414 the reason why we want to know is because you put yourself out there none of us have done that. we just want to know where you are getting all your credentials, and how much did you have to pay for them. Are you ashamed of who taught you what you know? thats what i think this is. or you know that you are a fraud, and you dont want to mention anyones name because you know that you are lying about it.

                            myself: i trained in Raleigh-Durham, NC I am a 2nd degree black belt i have trained with Jesse Bowen (it was a couple of years ago) and now I am currently looking for somewhere to train in Jacksonville, NC and I am looking for an instructor. I was going to move up east, but because of my job I will be staying in North Carolina for the time being.

                            Now it is your turn enlighten us
                            Last edited by ralph machio; 4/03/2008 7:31am, .

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by aceshigh414
                              The answer to all of these questions is simple I feel no need to explain to people who have not shown me any of these sacred crudentials you all speak of. Since you are all judjing me shouldn't I know my accusers backrounds as well or is that a national secret. My lineage and the lead trainer's lineage are proven to the people that matter to the team - ie. sponsors and fighters that train with us. That is all I will say on this matter.

                              You want proof well I would like to know what gives you all that right. Show lineages and I will be happy to.
                              Ok, so let me get this straight:

                              You run a business selling martial arts instruction, yet refuse to show credentials to prospective clients, telling them they have no right to see them until they first show you theirs.

                              Dude, PR 101 called, you just failed. This is an ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITY. This site generates a metric fuckton of traffic, this thread alone has over 2,200 views. Do yourself a favor and type "tnt destruction squad" into google. You'll get your team's site, and directly below that this thread, titled "Scam or the real deal?". It's in your best interest to get this shit cleared up, or your potential clients are going to see the word "scam" next to your team's name. You can be sure they'll click on the link (oooh, drama!) and read about how one of your fighters is full of rage and how you refuse to provide your credentials claiming "outsiders have no right to see them".

                              I'm not saying you have to kiss ass and make friends (although that helps). Just use this opportunity to show yourself and your team as up-and-comming pros who take the high road and are willing to prove that they are legit. If you have problems dealing with people on a business level (like me), hire a PR/Marketing guy to be your mouthpiece. If you think this is "unmanly", then make the guy train from time to time at your gym and no one will think you're "hiding behind a suit".


                              And just so I don't come off as genuinely helpful or friendly in a rough kind of way, I leave you with this conundrum: you have a fully equipped gym at your disposal, and yet all your website shows are "action photos" from somebody's livingroom. Why?

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                                #90
                                i figured out what i can compare this destruction squad scam to... in the movie napoleon dynamite there is a scene with Rex Kwon Do. I can see it now in the livng room with your American flag Otomix pants on saying "Bow to your Sensei"
                                Last edited by ralph machio; 4/03/2008 8:27am, .

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