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    #46
    Originally posted by elipson
    From what I've read, takedowns were more important than fancy kicks in old rough capoeira. Kicks were more of a 20th century thing. Just from what ive heard.
    The "fancy" kicks are more or less used to set up your opponent for a takedown. Yeah, you can hurt someone with the kicks, but I find it more fun just to drop them on the ground.

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      #47
      That small guy going full speed around 4 minutes was probably the first time I found someone doing capoeira scary aggressive and made it look more than just cool dancing.

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        #48
        OK, this was a seriously cool video. And you could see how easy the capoeira guys could switch from the dance to the fight. There were a could cool "catch kick throw" moves in there. There was another video where sanda guys sparred w/ capoeira guys and used similar tactics.

        The little guy threw some fast kicks that really made me sit up and pay attention. I was waiting for him to connect with one of the them.

        :bully: :glasses6:

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          #49
          Why bother with all that silly spinning around if you know the other guy is just biding his time before he goes for the face punch?

          Just rush in there with a roundhouse.

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            #50
            http://br.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1CRuWusKoE

            Capoeira may never be UFC material, but some capoeiristas are mean, mean bastards.

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              #51
              That's sad man...I feel bad for the guy's family. Indeed, it's a dangerous game. But damn, it's just a game and some of these fools take advantage of it to prove how "badass" they are. They don't ever have a chance to realize that it isn't an effective way to fight. It kinda reminds me of my cousins and I beating each other up in the backyard when we were kids. No training, just brawling for the sake of brawling.

              Most Capoeiristas now only experience fighting others in the roda, in the pretext of the game. It's too damn easy to sucker punch someone or just give them a straight kick at the right time. That doesn't take any skill at all. So they think they are invincible, and stories and legends are built from situations like this. "Dude, some kid got killed in the roda last week by Gigante...What a scary fighter!" When it was just a lucky, cheap, uncontrolled shot that cost someone their life. For what?

              You enter a cage with a somewhat realistic notion that you might not ever leave it. It can happen. But to enter a roda and be killed by a cheap shot? To betray the memory of those that used the true Capoeira (the philosophy and mentality) to free themselves from real oppression and a life of constant danger; that is shameful. They fought then so the Capoeiristas of today wouldn't have to. We play Capoeira today in large part to honor the memory of those that died before us...

              I'm so pissed when I hear about someone dying in the roda. Accidents happen, sure. But these rodas with no self control or respect or sportsmanship make me sick.

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                #52
                http://br.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qepOe5-NxY4

                http://br.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjuw2bw1ZE

                http://br.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GALA-WmCNHw

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                  #53
                  Man I took a few cheap shots just because i saw the opening, but it never was meant as an offensive attack. I just tapped the guy like "hah gotcha!" so it was all in good fun. I agree very much with what doninha said.

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                    #54
                    Thanks for the comparative Capoeira history lesson. Much different than what I had been shown.

                    Never got use to the rule changes when I tried to sparr my roomate who had lived in Rio for a few years. The fluid rules always worked in his favour, but he had lousy timing...obviously lucky for me.

                    Still cant get that "barra ba day" song out of my head from 12 years ago.

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                      #55
                      Capoiera Brawl II

                      YouTube- Capoeira Demo Turns Into Huge Brawl After Body Slam

                      Funny how easily one can see the difference between dance and a real fight isn't it?

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                        #56
                        was it too much to expect something from only the strong?

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                          #57
                          I was invited to a big meet in San Francisco, supposededly all kinds of high levely guts were there from all over the place. I went just to watch, knowing nothing about it at the time, my friends had studied in Hawaii and were all excited to see this big event. Anyway I had to back down out of three fights as somone just watching in the stands. Every time I left the stands to go to the john, or get a drink some dude would bump me, put an elbow in my face talk shit right in my face ect. It was crazy the amount of macho bullshit that was going on. The same thing went on for other spectators I talked to. Batshit crazy man. I lost total respect for the art the first time I saw it. It was like going to a Raiders game.

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