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  • Serrin
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    The opposite of a hyperchondriac would be a hypochondriac, no? Which is the word you actually meant to use. I guess you'd be a hyperchondriac. Assuming that chondrias are things that make you think you're not hurt or sick.

    Also JohnnyFive, I must regretfully inform you that you are not, in fact, alive.

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  • JohnnyFive
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    Originally posted by Cuchulain
    Okay, yeh I feel like an Idiot.

    I just don't have much faith in doctors. Thats why it took me so long to get it looked at. I mean most doctors would tell you not to do combat sports in the first place, so I never know whether to take what they say with a pinch of salt. I think i'm the opposite of a hypercondriac.
    You have to find the right doctor -- my ortho surgeon used to play football for Northwestern, so he knows that sometimes you have to play sports.

    SURGEON: "If I give you a leg brace, are you going to wear it?"
    ME: "Er ... well, honestly, probably not."
    SURGEON: "Then I'm not going to give you a leg brace."

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  • Teh El Macho
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    Originally posted by Cuchulain
    Okay, yeh I feel like an Idiot.

    I just don't have much faith in doctors. Thats why it took me so long to get it looked at. I mean most doctors would tell you not to do combat sports in the first place, so I never know whether to take what they say with a pinch of salt. I think i'm the opposite of a hypercondriac.
    My doc has never told me not to do things (not that I'm training anything anyways.) All he has said is "you don't have to stop doing things, just tone them down when you need to and listen to your body." My chiro never tells me to stop squatting and deadlifting even though he hates it that I do them. All he says is "be careful and contact me if you have problems."

    Docs will over-react and tell you to stop doing combat sports because, to them, your recreational activities are of no importance. Your health is. If a doctor tells you to stop doing combat sports, most likely he will also tell you to do certain things (.ie. rest for a lenght of time, do rehab exercises, takes your meds, etc).

    He's not gonna tell you "stop combat sports" without prescribing you something to improve your health, would he? If you really think about it, you know that if you follow his instructions, your fibula will heal in a finite amount of time, no? He's not goign to tell you "now to the end of your days, keep your leg up and take this pink pill every three hours", right?

    Your healing process is just going to take a fucking finite time. The doc will tell you when it's healed. Your x-rays will tell you. At that point, all you have to do is resume your MA of choice.

    But you are not going to get to that point if you don't listen to the instructions necessary for your fibula to heal.

    So all you have to do is follow his instructions until you heal. Once you heal, then you can politely disregard your doctor's opinion about doing combat sports.

    He'll be there next time you break some other shit. And he'll tell you "I told you so, combat sports are not good", and you'll say "I know doc, I just like it a lot", and then he'll fix you, and then you'll be back on the mat and so on and so on...

    And be grateful that there is someone who doesn't give a shit about what you like to do and orders you to do what you need to do.

    A lot of times we need someone to do just that.
    Last edited by Teh El Macho; 2/07/2008 4:25pm, .

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  • alex
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    shitchurner

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  • senseipookie
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    Oh yeah, you've got me pegged. I'm all about aromatherapy and purple chakras and whateverthfuck else goes along with that stuff.

    Numbnuts

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  • Jadonblade
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRyl8C2zGXk

    Im sure this guys bone was perfectly strong before the fight...

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  • alex
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    Originally posted by kitterykenshin
    Understandable - being in "alternative healthcare" I don't always agree with standard western docs either. But some things are just kind of common sense.
    hippy fuck

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  • Cuchulain
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    It's true, I am a fuckwit. But I am a fuckwit who's willing to learn, if that counts for anything.

    I will have a meeting with a doctor next week, I imagine she will tell me if I need any kind of physio then. Thanks for the advice.

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  • senseipookie
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    Understandable - being in "alternative healthcare" I don't always agree with standard western docs either. But some things are just kind of common sense.

    For now, work other things that don't stress your leg. Keep it active and do some gentle stretching to keep up your range of motion and circulation, but nothing that will shock or overstrain it. Who knows, you may even end up with new skill sets you didn't even think of by changing your focus for a little while.

    Are you going to physical therapy? If not, ask for a referral. You should be able to find a PT that specializes in sports injuries. And follow their instructions. <Insert shameless plug here> And when you get the OK, go to a deep tissue or sports massage therapist to help the healing process.

    And lots of milk, Vitamin D, and Vitamin C. Lots of people ignore the C, but it helps the body absorb the calcium better.

    The time will go by, and you'll be training hard again before you know it. Let us know how it goes.

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  • alex
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    na, youre just a fuckwit. please dont breed.

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  • Cuchulain
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    Okay, yeh I feel like an Idiot.

    I just don't have much faith in doctors. Thats why it took me so long to get it looked at. I mean most doctors would tell you not to do combat sports in the first place, so I never know whether to take what they say with a pinch of salt. I think i'm the opposite of a hypercondriac.

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  • Teh El Macho
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    Originally posted by Cuchulain
    Well it's no where near as bad as it sounds, if you look up what a fibula is, you'll see it's really not that important. Besides Randy Couture broke both his arms during his fight with Gonzaga and went on to win.
    Dude, you are a fucking idiot. You have balls and heart, but maaaaaan!!! you are being an idiot. I don't mean it to be offensive... meh, maybe just a little bit.

    No, actually no, really, you are being an idiot.

    First of, Randy broke his bone in the fight and just sucked it up. But you don't see him fumbling around with it. In fact, he spent a good while with a cast while toning down his training. Furthermore, Randy broke his ulna. And unlike his fibula, the ulna doesn't carry his entire weight whenever he walks, kicks or check kicks.

    Secondly, I'm sure Mother Nature gave you that bone for a particular purpose. If it didn't have any purpose, you wouldn't be limping and aching enough for your coach to tell you to get an x-ray, would you?

    Now, think of this. Even for people that have chicken legs, the calf (gastrocnemius+soleus) is a pretty fucking strong muscle. Chances are that if you use it with a broken fibula, the calf with every contraction is going to pull the bone segments bad enough that the fibula will reassemble itself in the wrong shape.

    This is certainly the case with a femur fracture. Don't know to what frequency this can happen to the fibula, but it's a possibility. Also, the fibula is a very important bone becuase it serves as attachement to ligaments and tendons. So why fuck around with it?

    Most importantly, even if it's not that important (which it is), it still hurts. I mean the plantaris is a vestigial muscle that can be surgically removed without any loss of planta function. But if I were to slice it off cold turkey, I'm pretty fucking sure you'd be limping in pain regardless of how useless this muscle really is.

    Just do yourself a favor and take it easy for a few weeks. Get some milk but don't do squats.

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  • leec123
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    kitterykenshin will be able to supply more advise, but from the sound of it, i would say try to keep everything moving in that area so you dont lose any mobility in your ankle and gradually increase any resistance training while avoiding anything that will shock load the break or apply any shearing or torsional force to it until it is fully healed.

    anyway, you have learned a good trick and been a good boy.

    next week we can teach you to play dead and fetch a stick(joke)

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  • jadjen
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    Good choice, now drink plenty of milk, heal fast, train hard and kick some ass! Good luck...

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  • jadjen
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    You have to think this one out. Do I miss a couple matches and let myself heal completely up where I can go 100 percent. Or do I risk it all and stand a chance of permanant injury. WheaselSpleen is right, there are too many risks. There's also compartmental fractures where the bone doesn't even have to break again, just get injured in the area enough to damage the muscle tissue around it. The treatment for it involves slicing the muscle open and leaving it open until it fully heals. Or the thrombosis that can cause a pulmonary embolism, heart attack or stroke. Looks like it's all stacking up on one side, but hey, it's your leg

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