Guys, Jesus didn't tap.

[Anna Kovacs]

Anna,

Explain. Do you hate your opponent? Serious question here.

Not at all. I maintain a sense of sportsmanship and mutual respect but I do tend to go into "fight or flight" to some degree so I'm simply trying to stop them from getting me and that entails hitting them as hard as I can any way that I can within the context of the rules with intent to disable them or knock them out. I don't actually expect that I'll be able to seriously injure someone through the gear or before the referee steps in but I am definitely trying to hurt them.

I'd probably feel bad about it if I did actually injure someone in the ring, but fight or flight doesn't leave much room for nuance so anyone coming at me is getting hit as hard as i can manage to hit them.

[TheMightyMcClaw]

In Norse mythology, you went to heaven by dying of violence.

It's true, otherwise I wouldn't have said it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[yt]xxsqgQKnn8s

[Ming Loyalist]

Not at all. I maintain a sense of sportsmanship and mutual respect but I do tend to go into "fight or flight" to some degree so I'm simply trying to stop them from getting me and that entails hitting them as hard as I can any way that I can within the context of the rules with intent to disable them or knock them out. I don't actually expect that I'll be able to seriously injure someone through the gear or before the referee steps in but I am definitely trying to hurt them.

I'd probably feel bad about it if I did actually injure someone in the ring, but fight or flight doesn't leave much room for nuance so anyone coming at me is getting hit as hard as i can manage to hit them.

yeah, i see where you're coming from but i don't think you're being malicious.

you want to hurt them, yes, but it's only motivated by the setting of a sporting match where the goal is to injure the other person badly enough that they can't or won't continue. it's not malicious, it's just business.

kind of like a hired killer.

[Vieux Normand]

...well, thats Rabbitic law...

^^^This bugs me.^^^

It's "wabbitic".

Evewyone knows that.

[IMightBeWrong]

^^^This bugs me.^^^

It's "wabbitic".

Evewyone knows that.

Wascally wabbis!

[Transcendent Sunchips]

It's true, otherwise I wouldn't have said it:

There's a difference between dying in combat and dying from a beating by your husband. You can guess which ones the valkyries picked up. Hence, why tharuz should never hit the post button.

[Torakaka]

yeah, i see where you're coming from but i don't think you're being malicious.

you want to hurt them, yes, but it's only motivated by the setting of a sporting match where the goal is to injure the other person badly enough that they can't or won't continue. it's not malicious, it's just business.

kind of like a hired killer.

I think your definition of malice may differ a bit from mine.

Malice:

1. desire to inflict injury, harm, or suffering on another, either because of a hostile impulse or out of deep-seated meanness: the malice and spite of a lifelong enemy.


When you fight you desire to inflict harm on another person because of a hostile impulse (if we weren't being hostile we'd be playing chess or pole vaulting or something... not trying to punch/kick/strangle/contort another person). You can say it's not hostile because you're just trying to win, but the hostile means by which you win are obviously important. You don't have to hate someone to be malicious towards them. Sociopaths don't hate the people they hurt.

[Siniq]

Jesus didnt' tap Jesus didnt' tap jesus didnt exist....? What? What did that backvocal say?

[IMightBeWrong]

Jesus didnt' tap Jesus didnt' tap jesus didnt exist....? What? What did that backvocal say?

Jesus is in my history books when I was in High School, but they don't mention him as the son of God, but as a philosopher who made a large impact at the time. I'm guessing in order for those books to be allowed in school, enough evidence had to be there to suggest he really did exist. I could be wrong though. I wish I remembered what history book we used...

[Vieux Normand]

Sportsmanship: facing the opposing boxer and trying to beat that adversary in a fair fight.

Malice: making sure you're first in the ring, and then headbutting the other boxer while his hands are down because he's pushing the ropes aside while stepping into that ring.

EDIT: Wait a minute--THARUZ cited Norse mythology!??! Shit...is there any way I can change my ethnicity?

[han090]

I think your definition of malice may differ a bit from mine.

Malice:

1. desire to inflict injury, harm, or suffering on another, either because of a hostile impulse or out of deep-seated meanness: the malice and spite of a lifelong enemy.


When you fight you desire to inflict harm on another person because of a hostile impulse (if we weren't being hostile we'd be playing chess or pole vaulting or something... not trying to punch/kick/strangle/contort another person). You can say it's not hostile because you're just trying to win, but the hostile means by which you win are obviously important. You don't have to hate someone to be malicious towards them. Sociopaths don't hate the people they hurt.

Assuming you're using dictionary.com there, the 2nd definiton defines it as specifically being an evil act.

Whereas "thefreedictionary.com" says (with a particular focus on "without just cause" in the second.

1. A desire to harm others or to see others suffer; extreme ill will or spite.
2. Law The intent, without just cause or reason, to commit a wrongful act that will result in harm to another.

Actually, if we go by the first defintion you gave,a police officer shooting someone in defence would be malicious. Or a solider shooting an enemy combattant. Or anyone attacking defensively is malicious actually.



Also, don't know if this has been pointed out already (feel free to flame is it has been), but one of the t-shirts says "ground and pound 7 days a week" with a picture of jesus beating the devil. Shouldn't he be resting on the 7th day? You'd think jesus would know to keep holy the sabbath.

[MrBadGuy]

Can jesus create a guard game so tight that he himself cannot pass?

[conceited]

I think your definition of malice may differ a bit from mine.

Malice:

1. desire to inflict injury, harm, or suffering on another, either because of a hostile impulse or out of deep-seated meanness: the malice and spite of a lifelong enemy.

It's not an impulse if you've been training weeks in advance.

Historically: malice came from the Latin word malus meaning "bad."

It boils down to this: "When you fight an opponent are you trying to win, or seriously injure/kill them? I.E. do you have evil intent?"

Clearly the two are not mutually exclusive but for the sake of squashing what will almost certainly be a semantically charged (and ultimately boring) debate, which option; injure/win is the final goal?

Wait, wtf does this have to do with Jesus tapping?

[Marc Spector]

I like to picture Jesus in a tuxedo gi, cuz it says "I'm here to grapple, but I'm also here to party", cuz I like to party so I like my Jesus to party too.

[MrBadGuy]

If you were grappling jesus, would you tap to kill or tap to win?!


If you tapped to kill he'd totally come back in 3 days and like, gogoplata you or something.