Sensei Al & Co. trolled us into getting a free SAMBO seminar. Those bastards!

[CNagy]

Hmm, hate to break it to you guys, but you look like fucking idiots. Granted, you lucked out and got a free seminar, but the BEST case scenario here was that you beat up a guy with no school, no students, no real online presence, no martial arts community presence like seminars, a name, etc., no media presence, such as books or movies, or anything else to speak of. On top of that, the original beef started on MYSPACE. This shit was retarded BEFORE he was revealed to be a gimmick (shocking) and now its just laughable.

What part of this was retarded? Asking a "BJJ Blackbelt" for his credentials? Setting up a couple of fights when said "BJJ Blackbelt" issued a challenge? Showing up for said challenge? I cannot believe that questioning credentials is retarded. I cannot believe that stepping up to a challenge is retarded. I cannot believe that actually showing up to the challenge was retarded, so I'm not seeing your point at all. Or are you just saying that it isn't worth it to go after small-time frauds?

[sambosteve]

IMO, this prank just ended up like 99.9% of internet challenges...lots of keyboard posturing and no fight as a payoff. Only difference is that this time one party was acting the part and the other was actually interested in fighting. I actually find the prank by ACA to be really funny, but I hardly think it makes anyone on BS look like an idiot. All it prooved is that there are still posers out there who talk shit and never fight...and there are those who will step up.

[Scrapper]

Hmm, hate to break it to you guys, but you look like fucking idiots. Granted, you lucked out and got a free seminar, but the BEST case scenario here was that you beat up a guy with no school, no students, no real online presence, no martial arts community presence like seminars, a name, etc., no media presence, such as books or movies, or anything else to speak of. On top of that, the original beef started on MYSPACE. This shit was retarded BEFORE he was revealed to be a gimmick (shocking) and now its just laughable.

SO you DON'T support Bullshido members actively seeking out fraudulent martial artists and attempting to substantiate said fraudulence? Or is it because this potential fraud was not high enough profile?

It looks liek the only thing that got proven in this case is that Bullshido WILL come and test your claims. If the occasional douche wants to cry wolf for kicks, what do we care. All it does is reinforce that we will do it.

For this to be a truly epic and successful troll job, there would need to be some sort of funny or ironic result. Something that would demonstrate that we were not what we said.

As I said before, reporting a fire to the fire department is not "trolling," it's being a dick. You already know the fire department will come.

[Cuchulain]

Hmm, hate to break it to you guys, but you look like fucking idiots. Granted, you lucked out and got a free seminar, but the BEST case scenario here was that you beat up a guy with no school, no students, no real online presence, no martial arts community presence like seminars, a name, etc., no media presence, such as books or movies, or anything else to speak of. On top of that, the original beef started on MYSPACE. This shit was retarded BEFORE he was revealed to be a gimmick (shocking) and now its just laughable.

I think you are being pretty harsh. I'd rather see a fraud nipped in the bud than wait till they have ripped off people. To say they looked like idiots is pretty disrespectful to those involved.

[ben saunders]

Lol at that name shit, what a load of mini hitlers

[Tom Kagan]

Thread locked pending culling of Ben Saunders into a 2nd thread double feature.


Edit:

'Ben Saunders' is now playing at this thread:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=63382

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[ironlurker]

I thought about it, and, IMHO, the best response to the whole thing for those of us who aren't one yet, is to become a supporting member, which I just did.

[Gabrael]

give it up man you're embaressing yourself

[Ke?poFist]

No. The ACA has been around for a while. I strongly suggest not to make any associations or come up with conclusions on this person in youtube and t-magnum known as "Sensei Al" unless there is unrefutable evidence to the contrary. The last thing we want is to troll, accuse or insinuate anything on somebody who for all we know is not even aware of this shit.

Agreed, in fact I'm going to edit my youtube vid.

[Teh El Macho]

Am I the only one who thinks that this ACA was invented so Al Perry et al could save face and not fight? Occam's Razor, people.

No. The ACA has been around for a while. I strongly suggest not to make any associations or come up with conclusions on this person in youtube and t-magnum known as "Sensei Al" unless there is unrefutable evidence to the contrary. The last thing we want is to troll, accuse or insinuate anything on somebody who for all we know is not even aware of this shit.

[Carpe Noctem]

Cafezinho
No, the ACA was around before this debacle.

[cafezinho]

Am I the only one who thinks that this ACA was invented so Al Perry et al could save face and not fight? Occam's Razor, people.

[sochin101]

It's giving them too mcuh credit...
I'm pretty sure he's a guy they found on youtube, and used without his knowledge.

As far as I know, they did the same with Milt Wallace, pretended to be associated with him and trolled various Bullshido members through Youtube and on here.

[Ke?poFist]

So the question begs to be asked...If this ACA group apparently trolls people in the name of defending ALL martial artists to do what they want, without having their crappy videos and such assailed by BJJ blue belts and such as they put it....what is the liklihood that this Sensei Al guy actually is real, and the ACA guys just contacted him telling him that they'd troll on his behalf to take the attention off him and onto them?

Or is this just a stretch of the imagination, and is feeding the trolls even more?

[test1234]

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