Sensei Al & Co. trolled us into getting a free SAMBO seminar. Those bastards!

[TEA]

I am having a bad day. I got owned, and my snake died, and I have no heat in this place :(

Move to Texas. We have plenty of snakes and only need heat occasionally.

[borrachaGB]

you'd be surprised at how common that actually is...obscure schools with no site and

[The Question]

Again.

You guys got owned. pwned, even.

[xingyifa]

I don't know anything about the "ACA," but is there any possibility that this wasn't really a troll job and these guys thought of a clever way to get out of having to deal with 30+ angry fighters?

[theotherserge]

I still don't even understand what happened. All I saw on that clip was a load of tapout wearing homos waiting to beat up some old guy at a gym. Lol at them bringing their own ref and travelling in a pack of like 20 people. I really don't understand you guys..sometimes you are cool (grappling forum is good), but then you pull shit like this WTF!?

what did you bring/what would you bring chicken-fuck?!?

If you don't want to fight, don't train to do so...asshat

yawn@teenage trollers

[Tom Kagan]

My comment on the idea of letting this ride, http://mmafighters.21.forumer.com/vi...hp?p=2428#2428

Hey, there are some real pluses to this elaborate troll job. The crew that showed up to fight got a great Sambo seminar. This incident was a pretty good dry run for outing a potential fraud in near record time (damn, look how many Web sites this has been discussed on and how far and wide this issue was spread). Also, it kept a bunch of kids of the street and safely behind their computer screens while getting a good giggle at our expense.

You aren't actually reading the posts before you use the 'reply' box, are you?

That's so cute.


Hey Phrost, can I keep him? I promise to clean up after him and feed him twice a day.

[Tom Kagan]

I don't know anything about the "ACA," but is there any possibility that this wasn't really a troll job and these guys thought of a clever way to get out of having to deal with 30+ angry fighters?

Oooh, you're so cute, too!

Phrost, this one too.

Pretty please?

[McMurf]

Where?

According to the user channel, the video was posted "10 hours ago".

Wow im an idiot rofl. I was looking at the "joined" thing.

[Ke?poFist]

I don't know anything about the "ACA," but is there any possibility that this wasn't really a troll job and these guys thought of a clever way to get out of having to deal with 30+ angry fighters?

I already suggested something similar. ACA has existed before this prank, so no it's doubtful this was an escape by a legitimate individual.

[Ke?poFist]

I'm being honest. You all just looked pretty damn silly.



About the time when you realized that he had no school and that NO ONE had heard of him outside myspace, you should've called shenanigans.

As someone who has been saying since the beginning that this was a massive troll job at worst or a cowardly fraud who would never in a lifetime show up in person at best, I can say I went along with this, and would do so again if given the choice to go back knowing what I do now. Why? Because no matter what the outcome, at least people know that we will show, and not only that, but we will show on short notice and oblige them to any terms deemed necessary. This was supposed to be a BJJ investigation, but if the individual feels he wants to thump his chest and demand MMA sparring/fighting, then so be it.

Just so happened in this case, it turned out to be fake; but better to just get that over with than deal with week after week of forum-wars and hand-wringing by doing it your way and calling shenanigans from the comfort of my computer, all the while they call us cowards for not showing in person.

[M-Tri]

As someone who has been saying since the beginning that this was a massive troll job at worst or a cowardly fraud who would never in a lifetime show up in person at best, I can say I went along with this, and would do so again if given the choice to go back knowing what I do now. Why? Because no matter what the outcome, at least people know that we will show, and not only that, but we will show on short notice and oblige them to any terms deemed necessary. This was supposed to be a BJJ investigation, but if the individual feels he wants to thump his chest and demand MMA sparring/fighting, then so be it.

Just so happened in this case, it turned out to be fake; but better to just get that over with than deal with week after week of forum-wars and hand-wringing by doing it your way and calling shenanigans from the comfort of my computer, all the while they call us cowards for not showing in person.

I agree that ACA basically showed the world that guys like us are not all talk, and we will travel to beat your fake pansy ass given remotely reasonable opportunity. I felt a little stupid at first because I had been warned, and I did ignore my gut feeling at a few instances (like when absolutely NOBODY in the area had ever heard of him), but I honestly don't feel stupid at all anymore. lol, that was like a test run, and this jackass is still trying to milk it on myspace refusing to let it die, and he's making me feel better with every lame ass post.


So whatever I was naive, and that won't happen again. I haven't been an online community member for all that long, so I was an easy sucker.

[h_sh_m]

2 things.

I tend to agree with Osiris that as far as investigations go, if the person is not running a verifiable school there's not much reason to investigate. I was thinking about saying this myself and am glad someone with more rep around here said it.
It's definetly something to consider for the future, both as a way to filter out troll-jobs and to refine the site's objectives. (In the same way the James Randi Educational Foundation recently decided to stop chasing the random noname nutjob and focus on the bigger fish of people who had an already established reputation).

That being said I'm hella proud of everyone involved, especially Mikey. Y'all are doing well to represent us. Seriously, the combination of knuckleheadedness and professionalism is crazy. Covered almost every base, maintained general courteousness and worked out the logistics perfectly. Judging by the demeanor and efficiency in which you went about everything, you could almost forget you guys were scheduling a beatdown.

So yeah that's it. It was kinda a funny troll job. Probably would'a been funnier if they reimbursed y'all but it's whatever.

[sambosteve]

Ok, here is a very funny story...small world story.

A new student of mine who joined recently is on the myspace martial arts group (I had no idea about this until tonight). Apparently, he had been searching schools, etc, before joing NYCS and hand posted a blog on myspace asking what to look for in a martial arts school - asking advice from the myspace members. In any event, apparently it was his blog in which Senseai Al (or Mecho?) and Mikey Triangles first got into it with each other. He came into class laughing tonight saying how small a world it is that I ended up refereeing the "fight" that started on his blog post...LOL. My student is "Time is Currency" on Myspace.

[LI GUY 1]

Crap that is funny.

[M-Tri]

Ok, here is a very funny story...small world story.

A new student of mine who joined recently is on the myspace martial arts group (I had no idea about this until tonight). Apparently, he had been searching schools, etc, before joing NYCS and hand posted a blog on myspace asking what to look for in a martial arts school - asking advice from the myspace members. In any event, apparently it was his blog in which Senseai Al (or Mecho?) and Mikey Triangles first got into it with each other. He came into class laughing tonight saying how small a world it is that I ended up refereeing the "fight" that started on his blog post...LOL. My student is "Time is Currency" on Myspace.

that's absolutely hilarious