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    How to do a no-touch ( the hypno way)

    Martial Arts or Myth? Are Pressure Points and Chi real?

    By Aaron Rowe

    George Dillman may be the most famous among a handful of martial artists that travel around the globe to teach people the art of pressure point fighting for a hefty fee. In this video, which appeared on National Geographic, he demonstrates his ability to focus Chi, a sort of mystical energy, to knock people over without even touching them.

    I don't dispute that martial artists can render a volunteer unconscious with a relatively gentle touch during a carefully-controlled demonstration. But I wonder how compliant the assistant must be.

    Perhaps the underlying principle at work here is the power of suggestion rather than causing an overload to the nervous system or using a jedi mind trick.

    If this method of fighting is so effective, why isn't it used in mixed martial arts competitions? Perhaps because it takes years to master, is too dangerous to use on a delicate cage fighter, or can be countered by an unintentional wiggle of the tongue or toe.

    The explanations for pressure points and acupuncture have a lot in common. In fact, the spots on the body where martial artists are trained to strike lie along the so-called meridians of the prickly therapy. A recent study of acupuncture showed that it does not matter where the needles get stuck.

    Faith healers can knock people out too, but their explanation is a bit different.

    http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...l-arts-or.html

    Man, look at the comments. Gotta battle the chi knockout believers.
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    #2
    This was one of the links from the above comments section:
    http://www.kyushospace.com/forum.asp...5&id_topic=125

    :qright5:
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      #3
      I have wanted to attend one of these damn things for the longest time... I would pay double what it costs to watch if he could knock me out without touching me.... what a bunch of crap.

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        #4
        Anyone who has ever seen Derren Brown and still believes in any of this is a huge idiot.

        http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52123740902469

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          #5
          I was about to post about Derren (ive seen him live! twice!), his very good at bullshido. I think he proves Piz's point. Good work on all the research!

          See his messiah program to see how he bullshido's pretty much everything worth bullshidoing.
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          http://jadonbjj.blogspot.com/

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            #6
            Originally posted by Jadonblade
            I was about to post about Derren (ive seen him live! twice!), his very good at bullshido. I think he proves Piz's point. Good work on all the research!

            See his messiah program to see how he bullshido's pretty much everything worth bullshidoing.
            Agreed. Derren is an excellent Illusionist and admits to using Hypnosis and Suggestion. He also sometimes shows you how he does the Trick. Sadly, not seen him 'live' as I'm either working, training or recovering (yeah, I'm getting Old - don't even drink these days).

            He did a marvellous Trick in Chinatown (Central London) where he had a WC/WT/VT/WTF? Group. The Chinese Sifu (name escapes me but he was heavily featured at one time or other in COMBAT mag) and practitioner of Wing Tjun (yes, another derivative spelling) did a No Touch Knockdown while standing behind the Foil. Derren then did the exact same thing (minus the 20 years Chi Gung/Qi Gong training). The Sifu looked absolutely nonplussed.

            Fantastic. Derren then left the venue (to amplify their amazement, no doubt). Clever b*astard. :new_smile
            Last edited by Eddie Hardon; 10/25/2007 6:49am, .

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              #7
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyBWNdg-zwY

              :fart:

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                #8
                Originally posted by Craigypooh
                Sorry, mate, it's blocked at work but you ain't wrong...yeah, London too.

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                  #9
                  Call me an asshole.... but after she was jumping up and down and making fun on the judge.... then just assed out legs wide open in a dress..... I laughed my fuckin balls off......



                  never mind the fact I was watching dancing with the stars.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eddie Hardon
                    Sorry, mate, it's blocked at work but you ain't wrong...yeah, London too.
                    You'll probably see it on the BBC at some stage - Marie Osmond fainting while listening to one of the judges on a ball room dancing show.

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                      #11
                      Wired Blogs looks at George Dillman and pressure-points

                      Maybe someone wants to post a link to our investigation on Dillman? Comment on the videos?

                      http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...l-arts-or.html

                      I don't dispute that martial artists can render a volunteer unconscious with a relatively gentle touch during a carefully-controlled demonstration. But I wonder how compliant the assistant must be.

                      Perhaps the underlying principle at work here is the power of suggestion rather than causing an overload to the nervous system or using a jedi mind trick.

                      If this method of fighting is so effective, why isn't it used in mixed martial arts competitions? Perhaps because it takes years to master, is too dangerous to use on a delicate cage fighter, or can be countered by an unintentional wiggle of the tongue or toe.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Judah Maccabee
                        Maybe someone wants to post a link to our investigation on Dillman? Comment on the videos?

                        http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2...l-arts-or.html
                        I watched the video clip in that link through to then end, when they tried the no chi knock-out on a 120lb scientist and strangely it didn't work! It was then that Dillman suggested the scientist may have unwittingly discovered the counter to his chi knock-out: "If you point one of your big toes straight up and press the other flat, then the chi knock will not work"

                        The fool he'll never be able to knock-out anyone else again! I for one will always keep one big-toe pointed up, whenever I'm around anyone who claims to be a chi master, from now on.

                        :book1:

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                          #13
                          Dillman also claimed that the knockout didn't work because the subject was a "total non-believer." I can't imagine what I would have for a self defense technique that needs to be explained to my assailant beforehand.

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                            #14
                            I'd love to go to one of those "chi knockout" seminars, then, when the guy tries to demo on me, leap to my fight and begin speaking in tongues (throwing in "Praise God!" for every other line of gibberish.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Marc Spector
                              Dillman also claimed that the knockout didn't work because the subject was a "total non-believer." I can't imagine what I would have for a self defense technique that needs to be explained to my assailant beforehand.

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