Wing Chun? hard style. Wing Tsun? softer than Aikido. Flipside? practically limp.

[FickleFingerOfFate]

offcourse not through his defence, only if the way is clear.

So, your _ing _un is only effective against Morons and paraplegics.


'Nuff said.

[chi-conspiricy]

That would be a fucking hilarious video. But the chummers would all say that it's not the real sternum.

The real wing chum?

[Flipside]

What do all you _ing _un haters think of people as Keith Kernspecht, Emin Boztepe, Heinrich pfaff...

[Virus]

What do all you _ing _un haters think of people as Keith Kernspecht, Emin Boztepe, Heinrich pfaff...

We don't think of them.

[RunningDog]

What do all you _ing _un haters think of people as Keith Kernspecht, Emin Boztepe, Heinrich pfaff...

[Virus]

Runningdog, just because you didn't get the r34l wang hung is no reason to take it out on people that teach silly techniques from silly attacks with silly training methods.

[M1K3]

What do all you _ing _un haters think of people as Keith Kernspecht, Emin Boztepe, Heinrich pfaff...

I don't hate the chun. I just think that for the most part it is ineffective, with awkward stances, weak punches, no ground game and delusions of grandeur. Other than that not bad. As for your whos who list to me its a who cares list. Who have they fought and when? Oh yeah thats right, too deadly for the ring. People hear dislike the chun not because of what it is, but what it claims to be, a complete and deadly martial art.

[Dak]

i think its an excellent art of fanning someone

[Axelton]

i think its an excellent art of fanning someone

TKD is good for honing your tag skills as well.

[FickleFingerOfFate]

TKD is good for honing your tag skills as well.

_ing _un is good for honong your 'dog paddling' skills,

but it is still effectively learning to swim on dry land,

much like anything else practiced without resistance.

[Dak]

_ing _un is good for honong your 'dog paddling' skills,

but it is still effectively learning to swim on dry land,

much like anything else practiced without resistance.

shooting at something that has no legs?

[Virus]

People hear dislike the chun not because of what it is, but what it claims to be, a complete and deadly martial art.

Actually, I'd like to put my name on the list for people that hate it because of what it is:







Looks like some pretty deadly stuff. It's a good thing they don't compete in MMA because I'd fear for the poor MMAists safety.

[Dak]

break my knees plees?

[EternalRage]

MOre like ZOMG I HAVE TO PEE

[Virus]

Guys, have you learnt nothing on these boards?

Look it's simple;

You aren't supposed to fight like that, but the recent grandmasters forgot and so therefore most chum students forgot as well. But it's still a valuable training tool because of principles or muscle memory or something. It isn't so valuable that it's essential for performance, it's only slightly valuable. It's good as a warm-up. Except the grandmasters forgot this as well. The real training was supposed to be like muay thai with wrestling supplemented with small amounts of forms and chi-sau. In fact the chum isn't supposed to look like any of it's training at all. It's just that they gave names and wrote books about all the non-fighting stuff and forgot to give names and write stuff about the real fighting stuff, and so everyone thinks the chum is all about standing knock-kneed and punching the air when it's really not about that at all, well it is a bit but not as much as you think it is.