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    Anyone heard of Black Belt International?

    Hotmail just trapped an email from BBI HQ <[email protected]>
    Subject : Could your Black Belts break away and set up their own school?

    Attached were these three pictures:


    and some woman punching herself in the face



    Here is the body of the email.



    Yeah.....the blue on black is horrible to read. The website isn't even up yet. Anyone else get this email?
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    #2
    Lol, this is another McDojoism trick whereby MA Grades are on the condition that you stay with the school. Grades are bullshit admittedly but this is exploitative bullshit because it is directly NOT in the students best interest.

    Maybe this is the next big thing in MsDojoism, associations finding ways to further disincentivise leaving an org via the grading structure. Not that it'll actually stop someone.

    I've just found a goldmine for pictures of disaster threads!

    Blackbelt International
    http://blackbeltintl.com

    They list a lot of black belts some of which lend themselves to enquiry.
    No idea if this guy is for real or not but he has a qualification list longer than your arm, like might be worth a look at:
    http://blackbeltintl.com/info.php?id=831
    Frank Schneider


    Martial Art: Jujitsu
    Skill Level: 10 Dan
    Martial Art Style: Kempo,Street Combat Karate,JuJitsu,Hapkido,TangSooDo,Kobudo
    Location:
    D-58239 Schwerte,North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

    Member Information:
    Graduierungen/ Rankings& Mitgliedschaften/Memberships:
    6.Dan Karate-Do im Deutschen Karateverband DKVe.V.7. Dan Tang Soo Do im Tang Soo Do Verband Deutschland TSDVD e.V. und
    United Tang Soo Do Congress, USA
    8. Dan Hapkido in der German Hapkido Association & Hapkido International Association,UK
    8. Baysa/Dan KUF System (Combat Sambo/Russian Kempo),WKUFO,Ukraine
    10. Dan Kempo Karate / Ju Jitsu
    Shihan
    Sijo
    Soke
    They have a lot of MMA instructors too, just a guess but some might be not proper to thsat catagory. Dan Severn is a member though and he's cool by me, lol.
    http://blackbeltintl.com/ins2.php?ar...Martial%20Arts
    Last edited by Fantasy Warrior; 2/28/2007 11:54pm, .
    You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
    FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

    just die already.
    Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


    Aikidokkkkakkakakakaaaaa
    Best MA website ever!!!!!: http://www.dogjudo.co.uk/

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      #3
      OK, first "MMA" instructor listed that doesn't appear to actually be MMA in the sense that we use that term.

      Wayne Foulkes
      Martial Art: Mixed Martial Arts
      Skill Level: 9 Degree
      Martial Art Style: Arashi Kenpo Ju Jitsu

      http://blackbeltintl.com/info.php?id=318
      http://www.ruth1.demon.co.uk/

      Nothing on the site, including his bio suggests that they teach MMA.
      Him in the red/black belt with bald head and glasses:



      Mark Kemp
      Martial Art: Mixed Martial Arts
      Skill Level: 8 Degree

      http://www.shin-ga-do.co.uk/Home.htm
      A few of the many funny pics on their site, too big to embed:
      http://www.shin-ga-do.co.uk/images/G...2/P8080039.JPG
      http://www.shin-ga-do.co.uk/images/G...nstructors.jpg


      John Howe
      http://blackbeltintl.com/info.php?id=340
      Martial Art: Mixed Martial Arts
      Skill Level: 6 Degree
      Martial Art Style: chuan shu kwoon kung fu
      Location:
      Whitby,North Yorkshire, UK

      Member Information:
      i am 48 & have been doing chuan shu kwoon kung fu for 28 years, i was awarded 6th dan by the BNMAA in 2004, i run the whitby martial arts academy, we apply chuanshu, wing chun, aikido, presure points,we are open minded to all systems.I live here with my wife jill and 2 boys gary22 and martin 20.


      Additional Disciplines Studied:
      Aikido, Kung Fu, Other, Weapons


      _-----------------



      Ok, so basically when they list an instructor as teaching "Mixed Martial Arts" they don't necessarily mean the sport of MMA. Might be ignorance, probably is.
      Last edited by Fantasy Warrior; 3/01/2007 12:17am, .
      You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
      FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

      just die already.
      Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


      Aikidokkkkakkakakakaaaaa
      Best MA website ever!!!!!: http://www.dogjudo.co.uk/

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        #4
        How on God's green earth can you be a 10th dan in anything and be in your 40s or 50s. I honestly wish that there was a governing body for MA that would say your a fuckin tool if you have a 10th degree and not at least 70 years old and have made a lasting contribution to MA.

        Why is it that all the Judo or BJJ guys I know have to be held at gun point to get thier next rank? Why is it every Karate or TKD numb nut has a fuckin 5th degree BB only after 10 years of training?

        Honestly the work the gang, uhm staff, does here on this website is so valuable to the MA community and I am glad to have found it and become part of the gang, uhm thugs uhm group yea group.
        Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.

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          #5
          "Additional Disciplines Studied:
          Hapkido, Judo, Jujitsu, Karate, Kendo, Kickboxing, Kung Fu, Ninjutsu, Other, Taekwondo, Tai Chi, Tang soo do, Thai Boxing, Weapons
          Achievements & Titles:
          Shihan
          Sijo
          Soke"

          I heared "Other" is the ultimate in self defence! THe guy took Kung Fu, Ninjutsu, TKD, Karate, Tai Chi and did weapons training. Thats enough to hang him at this site.
          Originally posted by sochin101
          Dude, whassup? Did they freeze your dick then accidentally use it to cool down a thimble full of water? Or, did you mis-spell crayonist? You know, the guy who makes sure the wax crayons you use aren't too sharp in case you decide to do the decent thing and kill yourself.
          Training log. Here

          JFS vs The Villain here

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            #6
            Evidently PizDoffs bullshit sniffer is working.


            I'm guessing think what happens is that when the blackbelts register they get to tick as many style boxes, um, including "other" and they get logged as such with no meaningful form of verification. At least no one seems to have checked whether the guys putting "Mixed Martial Artist" on their profile really do that.

            Maybe these guys don't know what MMA is? Quite possible in reality given the insular nature of the mainstream/quasi-TMA community. I doubt that they are deliberately misleading the general public/consumer.

            BUT, this brings up a big problem with Blackbelt International! Their somewhat dubious selling point is that they enrich the student's experience by, quote:


            Yet, by the same token their efforts to vett their Instructor grade members is insufficient to prevent blatant misrepresentation of style, and in cases less than credible grade claims which even if true, should have raised alarm bells and caused a verification effort.

            The sad likelihood is that BBI is money-driven, ie McDojo. Suspicion:
            Blackbelt International = McJockstrap
            Offering support to huge bollox

            Therefore I think that this thread is MABS worthy. IMO.
            You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
            FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

            just die already.
            Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


            Aikidokkkkakkakakakaaaaa
            Best MA website ever!!!!!: http://www.dogjudo.co.uk/

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              #7
              can anyone do a 419eater.com style punking of this email? just to see where it goes?i dont have the time or energy to do it, but this could be hilarious if done correctly.

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                #8
                I would suggest that by failing to enforce their terms, they are inevitably going to fail in some of their objectives:

                You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
                FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

                just die already.
                Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


                Aikidokkkkakkakakakaaaaa
                Best MA website ever!!!!!: http://www.dogjudo.co.uk/

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                  #9
                  I just signed up and registered as an instructor... I listed myself as an 18th dan in Mixed Martial Arts. Here is a link... http://blackbeltintl.com/info.php?id=906

                  It took me about 3 minutes to do so - they have my email address, I'll post if they send me anything about wanting to verify my rank/school etc.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jkartigue
                    How on God's green earth can you be a 10th dan in anything and be in your 40s or 50s. I honestly wish that there was a governing body for MA that would say your a fuckin tool if you have a 10th degree and not at least 70 years old and have made a lasting contribution to MA.

                    Why is it that all the Judo or BJJ guys I know have to be held at gun point to get thier next rank? Why is it every Karate or TKD numb nut has a fuckin 5th degree BB only after 10 years of training?

                    Honestly the work the gang, uhm staff, does here on this website is so valuable to the MA community and I am glad to have found it and become part of the gang, uhm thugs uhm group yea group.
                    The phrase you are looking for is "this thing of ours."

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                      #11
                      Wow! That's fantastic.

                      Right, last person not a self-made Grand Master is a sissy!!!!



                      You are a total Douchbag. Train more, post nevermore.
                      FickleFingerOfFate -08-21-2007 08:59 AM

                      just die already.
                      Plasma - 08-20-2007 11:45 PM


                      Aikidokkkkakkakakakaaaaa
                      Best MA website ever!!!!!: http://www.dogjudo.co.uk/

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                        #12
                        That's too funny. Maybe I should register my dog. See if he gets any cool looking certificates in the mail.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Antifa
                          The phrase you are looking for is "this thing of ours."
                          I don't understand this reply.
                          Judo is only gentle for the guy on top.

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