I hate Russell Stutely so much maybe a rant will make someone else look at him closer

[lord ofteh pies]

UK scene.

Watch this mpeg of him twisting the nipples off some zombie and make your own mind up.
http://www.russellstutely.co.uk/video/grapplers.wmv

http://www.russellstutely.com/seminars/seminars.htm Testimonial of Russell Stutely
From Shihan Anthony J. Bailey
Note: Tony Bailey is the former UK Vale Tudo Heavyweight Champ.

Having been within the Martial Arts community for many years, I had read a lot about Russell Stutely and decided to book a seminar with him for my students and see his approach to teaching for myself. I was pleasantly surprised at how approachable he was. Many people put on airs and graces when they reach a certain stage of notoriety/fame, but not him. Right from the start he was informative, humourous, helpful and easy going. This kind of approach makes it easier for students to take on board new information. He taught absolute beginners right through to Dan grades with ease and care. He has, without question, the qualifications.....

[Steve]

I suppose you'll be posting some real evidence shortly.

Might be tough since you've never met the guy.

[DevonHartigan]

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Watch this mpeg of him twisting the nipples off some zombie and make your own mind up.
http://www.russellstutely.co.uk/video/grapplers.wmv

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Ok this video is definitely some serious LARP'ing. Some of it is actually quite unpleasant, but his test dummy is WAAAAYYY overreacting its effects. But it seems to work well if you are fighting the wussiest man in the world, i.e. the man in the video.

[sasquatch989]

Haha, Tony Bailey is 0-1 as a pro MMA fighter. Ian Freeman choked him out in the first round. UK Vale Tudo champ, hells yeah!

[OnceLost]

His site says he's going to be in the US in April 2007...anyone know where?

Also, his bio says the following:

OCFM International Coach
6th Dan OCFM
6th Dan Karate Jutsu
5th Dan Shotokan
4th Dan Kick Boxing
3rd Dan Torite Jutsu

I haven't seen many valid belts in kick boxing, and all I could find about OCFM is that its a UK franchise - I couldn't even identify a style.

[sochin101]

all I could find about OCFM is that its a UK franchise - I couldn't even identify a style.

It's Russell Stutely's own org... he's the founder, chief instructor etc etc... I wonder who gave him his sixth dan...?:smile:

EDIT: It stands for Open Circle Fighting Methods.

[OnceLost]

Thanks, sochin...any experience with these fine folks on your end?

[sochin101]

Me, personally, no.
I was hoping the original poster might come back and tell us if he's had any experience with them.


::Edited to remove baseless assertion::

[Elky]

At a very very superficial level, I always thought Russell Stutely had quite a good reputation as an RBSD guy. Plus, I met Anthony Bailey once and he seemed like a sound guy and a good Jpanese Jiu Jutsu practitioner. Can't contribute any more than that.

[sochin101]

At a very very superficial level, I always thought Russell Stutely had quite a good reputation as an RBSD guy. Plus, I met Anthony Bailey once and he seemed like a sound guy and a good Jpanese Jiu Jutsu practitioner. Can't contribute any more than that.

That's a whole lot more than the OP offered, and it's always nice to have first hand (even if it is limited) knowledge.
How long ago did you meet Mr Bailey? Was he involved with Mr Stutely at that point?
I think (from what I can understand from the very limited info offered by the OP) that the issue is mainly with the pressure point stuff, rather than the RBSD stuff.

[Hanniballistic]

Never got the chance to meet up with Russell, but the adverts on the PP stuff were...suspicious to say the least.

For one thing, if I am advertising a system based on striking effectiveness would i REALLY want Heroll Graham advocating it? Now the man was a great boxer, but he was not in any way shape or form a puncher. What he is though is a reconisable name that can be thrown out amongst other "fureyesque" marketing.

PP's remain something that I will never be convinced of until you drop me with it. To advocate them as a legitimate SD technique is just irresponsible

[Elky]

That's a whole lot more than the OP offered, and it's always nice to have first hand (even if it is limited) knowledge.
How long ago did you meet Mr Bailey? Was he involved with Mr Stutely at that point?

I met Mr Bailey about a year ago at a seminar - I didn't do his lesson as there was a karate one at the same time, but I got to watch some of it and it looked like decent JJJ - pretty much the same as I'd learnt at beginners' JJJ lessons in the past (as it was a beginners lesson he taught). He didn't mention Russell Stutely or RBSD or make any wild claims. As I said, seemed like a nice enough guy and taught a decent JJJ lesson. Can't really say more than that - he didn't seem like your standard crazy martial arts self-publicist - he's a very laid-back guy and I saw nothing dodgy in the bit of the seminar I saw. I think he was just teaching JJJ wrist-locks.

[sochin101]

I met Mr Bailey about a year ago at a seminar - I didn't do his lesson as there was a karate one at the same time, but I got to watch some of it and it looked like decent JJJ - pretty much the same as I'd learnt at beginners' JJJ lessons in the past (as it was a beginners lesson he taught). He didn't mention Russell Stutely or RBSD or make any wild claims. As I said, seemed like a nice enough guy and taught a decent JJJ lesson. Can't really say more than that - he didn't seem like your standard crazy martial arts self-publicist - he's a very laid-back guy and I saw nothing dodgy in the bit of the seminar I saw. I think he was just teaching JJJ wrist-locks.

Thanks for the information, Elky.
Puzzled that you didn't see anything wrong with wrist locks though :happy:, LOL.

I wonder if this is a case of marketing gone awry, or something more insidious?

[sochin101]

PP's remain something that I will never be convinced of until you drop me with it. To advocate them as a legitimate SD technique is just irresponsible

As someone who has had pressure points practised on me, I can honestly say that, unless the guy was doing it wrong*, they did little other than piss me off some.



*this is entirely possible.

[NorthWest]

The name Anthony Bailey is ringing a bell, for some reason....he doesn't go under the piss poor nickname Anthony "Bad Boy" Bailey, does he?