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    Originally posted by polishillusion
    why have i not seen that chunner and systema video before?

    and why were they even allowed to keep slapping each other into obscurity?
    For times like this :ingun:

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      Originally posted by Tonuzaba
      Well, to be very precise, he is not my lineage... :happy7:
      I don't really get why this would mean end of story...
      We don't push some kind of printed out agenda together.
      Leung Ting begat Boztepe begat his lineage. So it is your lineage.

      Regardless of whether Emin was kicked out or not.

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        Sophist, I love your post.

        However, the more evidence and arguments (no matter how rightly guided) one brings against the _ing _unerrs, the more things you give them to talk about and discuss. In short notice they are all back at it blowing each other again.

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          I agree with the combative sports argument, it is the best way to train for a martial art. However there is the possibility that TMAs did work at one time before becoming calcified, rigid and believing their own myths, in particular that small, slow and weak can be the deadly.

          Once upon a time people did actually use these arts for fighting. The level of competition was probable not very high and almost any training would have been a huge advantage against peasants, merchants and other citizenry. Especially those brought up in a culture where resisting authority of any kind was forbidden. In addition culture plays a role in how one behaves during a fight, and what the acceptable techniques are. This is true even in the combative sports arena. Boxing for example, while an awesome striking system, has lost some techniques that were common in bare knuckle fights and added others due to the addition of large gloves and the removal of standing grappling skills.

          Striking in MMA is probably closer bare knuckle boxing (BKB) that it is to modern ring boxing because the rules are closer to how a BKB fight would have been fought.
          I think you would see a revolution in boxing skills if they moved to the MMA glove and allowed grabbing and fighting out of the clinch, even without kicks or throws.

          Personally I see _ing __un as a Chinese reaction to bare knuckle fighting brought into southern China by foreign sailors in the 18th and 19th centuries. It is interesting to see how it and modern boxing have diverged from a common ancestor and how MMA is applying modern training and science while returning boxing to its roots.

          Hit something, be happy.

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            Originally posted by It is Fake??
            Leung Ting begat Boztepe begat his lineage. So it is your lineage.

            Regardless of whether Emin was kicked out or not.
            Discussing lineage with a chunner is like giving up all hope in humanity and taking your own life in despair.

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              Originally posted by DevonHartigan
              Discussing lineage with a chunner is like giving up all hope in humanity and taking your own life in despair.
              In some cases this would definitely be my advice.












              Not in your case though.

              CLICK & WATCH
              :
              I got BULLSHIDO ON TV!!!

              "Bruce Lee sucks because I slammed my nuts with nunchucks trying to do that stupid shit back in the day. I still managed to have two kids. I forgive you Bruce.
              " - by Vorpal

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                Originally posted by DevonHartigan
                Discussing lineage with a chunner is like giving up all hope in humanity and taking your own life in despair.
                Its actually kind of old testament. The nun who cannot be named begat Wing Chun who begat Leung Fan who begat Wong Shueng who begat Lung Phlem... and so on.

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                  Originally posted by Tonuzaba
                  In some cases this would definitely be my advice.



                  Not in your case though.
                  I actually believe that if there where an exception to the rule, it would, however, probably be you.

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                      Originally posted by Skidmark Louie
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                      CLICK & WATCH
                      :
                      I got BULLSHIDO ON TV!!!

                      "Bruce Lee sucks because I slammed my nuts with nunchucks trying to do that stupid shit back in the day. I still managed to have two kids. I forgive you Bruce.
                      " - by Vorpal

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                          Tonuzaba,
                          How 'bout you using your _un to beat up boxers, kickboxers or Muay Thai fighters? Then post the video.

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                            Yeh, I reckon that makes more sense. It's much easier to find decent boxers and kickboxers that will happily spar then it is to find a wing chun varient practitoner that will throw down.

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                              Originally posted by AnnaTrocity
                              Yeh, I reckon that makes more sense. It's much easier to find decent boxers and kickboxers that will happily spar then it is to find a wing chun varient practitoner that will throw down.
                              It's a legal/moral obligation so that you don't get hurt.

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                                Originally posted by PPlate
                                Tonuzaba,
                                How 'bout you using your _un to beat up boxers, kickboxers or Muay Thai fighters? Then post the video.
                                When you hear me saying (my) WT could beat up (any) boxers, kickboxers or MT fighters, that will be the day when I start posting videos of my victories. Got the logic?

                                CLICK & WATCH
                                :
                                I got BULLSHIDO ON TV!!!

                                "Bruce Lee sucks because I slammed my nuts with nunchucks trying to do that stupid shit back in the day. I still managed to have two kids. I forgive you Bruce.
                                " - by Vorpal

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