WT in MMA

[Fighting Cephalopod]

If we win, it has nothing to do with our training, if we lose it has everthing to do with it.

That's because, so far, every clip of a WT guy winning has looked nothing like WT training, and every clip of a WT guy losing has looked exactly lik e WT training (up until the point where he hits the ground in fetal position).

Find a clip of a guy winning while using anything that looks like WT training, and we might begin to take you seriously.

[Virus]

That's because, so far, every clip of a WT guy winning has looked nothing like WT training, and every clip of a WT guy losing has looked exactly lik e WT training (up until the point where he hits the ground in fetal position).

Find a clip of a guy winning while using anything that looks like WT training, and we might begin to take you seriously.

Actually neither of them look like the _un, except for maybe the stance before the windmilling, wild haymakers and slappyslappy begins.

[EmperorCesar]

Thats some impressive chun'ing

[Virus]

Q) How many _unners does it take to change a lightbulb?

A) A lot. One to crosstrain in actual lightbulb changing and the rest to take credit for it.

[GIJoe6186]

Did anyone notice that at the end, when they were doing what was suppossed to be the MMA part, they started in Chi Sau? Notice they started with this, but once one wanted to stop, the other could no longer keep at it. In other words, it takes two to Chi Sau.

[Virus]

it takes two to Chi Sau.

This phrase needs more usage.

Edit: I just watched the video. meh. Standard ving tsun video with some passable boxing thrown in. Yawn.

[Hands]

No I still don;t love chain punching, but what I saw was the chain punching leading into a clicnh, elbows and take down.

My feeling is that a good ma shoud teach the full range of fighting, from striking, closing the distance, clicnginh and taking down.

So to me this demonstarted that WC can be effective fot this.

Doesn't mean it's the best way to approach this but there,s no reason why someone using WC as a base and gross training in boxing, greco (because of the upper boady throws) and BJJ can't have something usefull

Yeah, the chain punching leading to other punches is what I've seen from the Inosanto JKD types. Here in Minnesota, I don't think I've met a pure chunner, they all mix it with boxing, Muay Thai, and some other silat styles. My experience with the blended types is that its harder to get into the clinch because of their sticky hands experience. They seem good at getting the straight punches in before throwing the boxing style punches and Muay thai elbows and other nasty things. The idea behind that is to get in the quick punch(es) to stun the other person, then follow up with heavy hits.

I think the level of suckiness attributed to wing chun is due to what the style does not train as opposed to the stuff in wc sucking 100%. Of course there seems to be a lot that wc doesn't seem to work on. My more recent teachers mentioned that wc was more of a drill and was never intended to be a complete style. That statement makes sense to me.

[Asriel]

Q) How many _unners does it take to change a lightbulb?

A) A lot. One to crosstrain in actual lightbulb changing and the rest to take credit for it.

Please don't start this again. I've only just recovered from your last thread

[MrMcFu]

My more recent teachers mentioned that wc was more of a drill and was never intended to be a complete style. That statement makes sense to me.

Sweet. You hear that _ing_uners? Your style is one big drill.

[PPlate]

To recap the story:He used the WT system to prepare for and then win 7 boxing fights.

And you have proof of this?

First that WT has been used in the ring to win and...

But then you say

caviate: Fight does not look like Chi Sau so don't go there, it looks like boxing because its boxing.

[PPlate]

So if a WT person goes into a Boxing match, then his WT turns into Boxing (and thus Boxing gets the credit)?

I wonder how does one turn WT into Boxing. If I trained TKD and then went to join a Muay Thai fight, I wish that I could also "turn" my TKD into Muay Thai.

Covering up with gloves and trying to back and bob and weave results in more lifting punchs and hooking punchs. Sorry you all are misguided to think all we do is chain thrust punch.

:happy7:

Principle wise he chain-hooked, he fought from a knee-in adduction style stance, turning around the WT centerline, as well as from our back stance in some views. He chased when they ran, he knocked people down, repeatedly.

I wish I had the WT chain-seeing skill so that I could figure all that out from the brief few seconds of poorly cut and poorly edited clip.

The responces to this so far shows exactly why few WT are interested in going into your sports to prove anything. If we win, it has nothing to do with our training, if we lose it has everthing to do with it.

There's an easy answer to that. Just get someone to train in WT, and nothing else, to enter a boxing match. If you feel so strongly about it, you could always volunteer. Then please post the video.

I sincerely think that there may be some useful things we all can learn from WT, but your arguments......they just make me giggle.

[DAYoung]

I really don't get it.

If you look for clips or shows of live Muay Thai and boxing matches (where fighters spar full-contact, with full resistance), you get plenty. They show the styles' techniques being used against opponents who're trying to hurt or submit them. If you do the same for Judo or BJJ, you get similar results.

But you find a Wing Chun video, and it's of a bloke boxing. Any other live Wing Chun matches, on video or in stadiums? Do they demonstrate unique Wing Chun techniques? Not many at all...

Why is it so difficult to accept that Wing Chun is essentially an untested and over-theorised style?

What am I missing? <------- genuine question

[MajinFajita]

I too am confused. So every time someone advances forward throwing a combination they're technically doing the _ing _un?

[Tom Kagan]

This isn't the style forums.

You're right. So, since this is YMAS, this applies instead:

SEARCH FUNCTION YOU FUCKTARD!


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[BackFistMonkey]

You're right. So, since this is YMAS, this applies instead:

SEARCH FUNCTION YOU FUCKTARD!


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amen brother .

I too am confused. So every time someone advances forward throwing a combination they're technically doing the _ing _un?

No , that would be a piquan actually .