WT in MMA

[Torakaka]

Should I bother answering this question when you know the answer and are obviously trolling? Still, you knew I would. Because I am a chunner (TM)... :icon_lol:

So, baby, here we go, just several theory bits:

1./ aggressive, straightforward fighting approach
2./ defense and attack exercised simultaneously or with a single movement, in flowing, non-stop series
3./ technique over muscling
4./ no squaring off forces with the opponent, evading/using his incoming energy
5./ following of the opponent
6./ no wide, open movements
7./ low, stomping kicks
8./ use of elbow and knee strikes

And if you say none of these is WT specific - that was not the question... :5umbrella

In that case, Karate has way better theory, they just suck at theirs too. One punch one kill.

[DAYoung]

In that case, Karate has way better theory, they just suck at theirs too. One punch one kill.

That punch is now coming for you, bluey.

[Tomas Drgon]

1./ aggressive, straightforward fighting approach
...
3./ technique over muscling
4./ no squaring off forces with the opponent, evading/using his incoming energy
5./ following of the opponent
...

These are all correct points, I don't think anybody can argue with these. But only if there is a training method that allows you to aquire skills that will allow you to follow these principles. And I think that is what most people tend to dispute in regards of _ing _un.

Tomas

[Nickeroon1987]

Man, when I took MT they never told me to be aggressive or to learn proper technique before putting force behind it -- all that wasted time!

[Tomas Drgon]

Should I bother answering this question when you know the answer and are obviously trolling? Still, you knew I would. Because I am a chunner (TM)... :icon_lol:

So, baby, here we go, just several theory bits:

1./ aggressive, straightforward fighting approach
2./ defense and attack exercised simultaneously or with a single movement, in flowing, non-stop series
3./ technique over muscling
4./ no squaring off forces with the opponent, evading/using his incoming energy
5./ following of the opponent
6./ no wide, open movements
7./ low, stomping kicks
8./ use of elbow and knee strikes

And if you say none of these is WT specific - that was not the question... :5umbrella

So then I guess you could ask what makes _ing _un unique?

[Virus]

I found an awesome video of t3h _ing _un grappling used under alive conditions.

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCDnbEqOYU0[/MEDIA]

Since apparently you can do anything and still call it wing chun we might as well call that wing chun as well. And ninjitsu. Or maybe Wingninjitsu-do.

[TEA]

Come on, you, GET IN MY BELLY!!!

[Virus]

Theory is one thing, the delivery system is another. _ing _un may have this list of theory, and most of it pretty sound, but how do they deliver the theory? With a set of techniques that are poor, at least in comparison to what's available from equivalent combat sports.

[blindfury]

I use to do wing chun. I think those theories are great. Use Boxing/Mt as the delivary system then you have something

[Virus]

If the _ing was so good, the the boxers and thai boxers would have taken note when an _inger turned up to cross train or spar. Seeing the vinger use these new exotic techniques that work, would bring about an interest in learning them. The boxers and MTers would then crosstrain in ving to gain an advantage over the other gyms. They would then go on to use these in competition, and if they provided an advantage, all other boxers and MTers would have to learn these newly integrated ving techniques in order to keep up and remain competitive. (Like when strikers realised they needed the grapple to remain competitive in MMA) After a while the lines between ving and boxing/MT would be very thin. Competitive gyms would bring in Ving sifus and send fighters off to train with the best vingers.

Please ask yourself why hasn't this happened yet, after all these years that the ving and boxing/MT have co-existed together.

[Virus]

I use to do wing chun. I think those theories are great. Use Boxing/Mt as the delivary system then you have something

The thing is, as others pointed out previously, if you do boxing and MT without ever setting foot in a wing chun school you will still be getting these theories. Which makes _ing _un redundant.

[Virus]

Annatrocity, locked in mortal combat with Jabba the Hut.

[blindfury]

I just went to the last page, sorry.

But yeah you would.

[PPlate]

In that case, Karate has way better theory, they just suck at theirs too. One punch one kill.

Well, Mas Oyama did kill a knife-weilding man with one punch, so it's not all hogwash. After killing bulls, what's a man?

[Virus]

You CAN kill someone with one punch as long as it is spiked with arsenic.