Remember those Girls Video doing BJJ?!

[Anna Kovacs]

Dinner for wolves.

[JohnnyCache]

If you're the best archer in the world, what are you doing here, chained to a wall?

[Torakaka]

You're too big to be a theif!

[JohnnyCache]

Shit, 6'3" 300lbs thats a big dude.

Anthony, can I ask you a question?

As a fellow "gentleman of size" do you every just look at some guy at the gym and go "Jesus at bootcamp, my division sucks"

Seriously.

Lightweights, middleweights, send us some submission experts, some guys that use speed and finese to outpoint you.

In trade, we will give you some guys that look like Lurtz the Urak-Hai.

I mean, I understand other people feel the same way when they look at me, but I find myself occasionally just going "Crom's balls, Subodai, this is going to hurt"

[Antifa]

The saddest part about this whole abortion of a thread is that those girls are still better than I am.

Thats okay Don, they dont have as good taste in hats.


Seriously Don, as long as you dont sell instructional videos while being that bad, its all good.

[Pandinha]

The saddest part about this whole abortion of a thread is that those girls are still better than I am.

You are still sexier than those bitches.

[Don Gwinn]

The saddest part about this whole abortion of a thread is that those girls are still better than I am.

[GoldenJonas]

Here's the thing: I think nonsense like Giant Silva fighting anyone, or Akebono fighting anyone is bad for MMA. I felt that the pole dancing at WFA shows was bad for MMA, regardless of my own sentiments on pole dancing.

agreed.

This has little to do with feminism, which apparently is a bad thing, and more to do with the perception of the sport we all presumably would like to see flourish.

Agreed. I was trolling you a bit here. "We kid because we love"

Oh, and yes, their technique does fucking sucks and they cheapen the training efforts of women who seek legitimacy in grappling (and no, a few glam shots of Kyra Gracie are not equivalent).

Meh, we disagree a bit here with regard to the underlined part, but we can agree to disagree...a bit.

[UpaLumpa]

Until Boyd gets laid and Upa earns his "feminism rulz" merit badge I have come to the unholy realization that this thread will never die.

Here's the thing: I think nonsense like Giant Silva fighting anyone, or Akebono fighting anyone is bad for MMA. I felt that the pole dancing at WFA shows was bad for MMA, regardless of my own sentiments on pole dancing. The MMAGirl nonsense similarly detracts from the sport, regardless of whether or not "sex sells".

This has little to do with feminism, which apparently is a bad thing, and more to do with the perception of the sport we all presumably would like to see flourish.



Oh, and yes, their technique does fucking sucks and they cheapen the training efforts of women who seek legitimacy in grappling (and no, a few glam shots of Kyra Gracie are not equivalent).

[UpaLumpa]

I would end this discussion, and point out that sex sells. Period.

Which is obvious and completely tangental to what some people are arguing.

[GoldenJonas]

Antonio is a big guy too. Hands twice as big as mine.

I look like a kid next to him.

Shit, 6'3" 300lbs thats a big dude. Last time I was down (CC ATT) I spent some time talking with Conan and he was pretty big mofo too. Nice guy though I let him hold my son.

[Pandinha]

Until Boyd gets laid and Upa earns his "feminism rulz" merit badge I have come to the unholy realization that this thread will never die.

By the way, Frank and the girls are HOT....Silva, rmmmm, not so much. Oh, wait, we were focusing on how boobies in MMA are the downfall of the sport, not abs, pecks, and spikey hair.

Rant on my birkenstock wearing Phish fest friends, rant on.....oh, good post Macho.

Antonio is a big guy too. Hands twice as big as mine.

I look like a kid next to him.

[GoldenJonas]

How do you guys feel about how Showtime sells their female fighters?

Gina's profile

http://www.elitexc.com/?page=fighter...er=gina_carano

Julie's profile

http://www.elitexc.com/?page=fighter...r=julie_kedzie

Now, compare them too:

http://www.elitexc.com/?page=fighter...frank_shamrock

or

Antonio Silva

http://www.elitexc.com/?page=fighter...=antonio_silva

I would end this discussion, and point out that sex sells. Period.

Until Boyd gets laid and Upa earns his "feminism rulz" merit badge I have come to the unholy realization that this thread will never die.

By the way, Frank and the girls are HOT....Silva, rmmmm, not so much. Oh, wait, we were focusing on how boobies in MMA are the downfall of the sport, not abs, pecks, and spikey hair.

Rant on my birkenstock wearing Phish fest friends, rant on.....oh, good post Macho.

[Teh El Macho]

We just found a prime example of Bullshido and people are saying "Aww, come on, they fessed up! Haven't they suffered enough?" El Macho is saying we should drop the issue because the girls admitted, via PM to a single user on a single message board, that they are not good grapplers, therefore exonerating them of any and all wrongdoing.

Well, yep, they admitted they can't grapple, that their clips are not instructionals and this is a gimmick for selling their clothing line. Compared to many other things that women have to face on a daily basis (discrimination in the workplace, lower salaries, sexual abuse, sexploitation, their small numbers in science and engineering fields), this is mild nuance at worst.

Sex sells. It's everywhere, so we can choose to spread our energy everywhere, or choose our battles wisely.

Unless I see evidence they are trying to claim something else on a different media (claiming once again their clips are instructionals, for example), then by all means, rip a new anus on them in the most painful way possible.

But until then, I don't see any reasons to pursue this. Now, the way to pursue this if anyone feels so inclined for it, it's by contacting them, not by creating endless posts here. This is not directed at you Boyd, but to anyone who feels necessary to pursue this.

And if possible, see if they can come here (even after they refused my initial invitation). If they don't want to engage this forum, then just post their replies to your comments here and draw your conclusions.

Again, I for one don't see a major problem with the business gimmick, so long as they don't claim to be doing tutorials as they did in the past.

[Neildo]

Eddie was probably high when he thought it would be a good idea to send two cute blonds some training material.

edit: When I think about it that way, i can't say i blame him.