Does wrestling really OWN the traditional arts?

[SifuAbel]

You just know everything, don't you?

[Gezere]

Actually I have used pressure points to get out of hold AND to enchance holds. They do work given the right situation but SOOOOO much stuff you see on pressure points today is just utter BS!

But with all that it pales when you thing of one thing:

WRESTLING SUCKS!!!

[HAPKO3]

I really have doubt on this "THERE ARE NO RULES". I really think that if you have real No-Rules-Fighting, perticipants would die regularly. Even REAL No-Hold-Barred would cause regular fatality.

Yeah. That's what a lot of people ***think*** as well. They also think that if they end up in a life-or-death situation, their "Tiger Sodomises Lotus Flower at Dawn" move, which was taught to them as fatal will bail them out.

But it does not happen.

No rules fights play out much the same as limited rules fights, such as UFC or Pride.

Counterintuitive? Sure. But it's a fact.

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I remain, Hapko3

[Boyd]

I really have doubt on this "THERE ARE NO RULES". I really think that if you have real No-Rules-Fighting, perticipants would die regularly. Even REAL No-Hold-Barred would cause regular fatality.

How? Excessive pinching, clawing, and grabbing the flesh?



Marital Status: CURRENTLY DOING TRADITIONAL KARMA SUTRA FOR HOMO!

--Fatality Dragon

[blue-dragon]

HAPKO3, YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD.

I have no arguments except I know that you haven't been in any real fights. WRESTLING IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO WIN A FIGHT. Just admit that and we'll talk.

[Gezere]

I agree with Blue dragon.

Tiger Sodomises Lotus Flower at Dawn has save my ass on sever occasions. It better to be the TIGER in this manuever!

(Seriously dragon does have a point Wrestling or Grappling is not the only way to end a fight)



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Xiao Ao Jiang Hu Zhi Dong Fang Bu Bai (Laughing Proud Warrior Invinsible Asia) Emporer of Baji!!!
THE TRUE FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR!!

[blue-dragon]

I didn't come here to argue I'm done. This topic page is full of people who have problems at home, I'm a loser or I can't get laid or something like that.

It takes a real dumbass to call someone untrained or something derogatory about their style because they type some shit that doesn't appeal to someone else. Don't even know me.

What I've learned here.

1. TMA artist are more respectable people.
2. People like HAPKO3 can say all they want over an internet forum because they can't be an ass away from one, might get bithced slaped or something.

[HAPKO3]

Oh, look at that, I upset him.

Poor baby.

I don't need to know you to be able to tell that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. That is evident in every one of you silly angst-ridden posts. And if you happen to live around SoCal, I will be happy to say that to your face, and provide a little demonstration. This is not a threat or a challenge, merely an offer.

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I remain, Hapko3

[HAPKO3]

By the way, the fact that wrestling is not the only way to win a fight is an obvious truth. Now, if you show me where I made the claim that it is, I will gladly offer a public appology.

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I remain, Hapko3

[Boyd]

Blue-dragon, I'm gonna drop my asshole persona for a moment and level with you:

We know grappling isn't the end-all be-all. That's common sense. Not a single person here will argue otherwise. The general concensus is that, ideally, you'll train all ranges of fighting and be able to control the situation as circumstances dictate.

When people argue against grappling, however, ludricuous TMA arguments typically aren't far behind. I'm not saying that arguments made by TMAs are inheritly dumb; hey, I've been one for the past two years. What I'm saying is that people who say "grappling isn't the best" are often dangerously close to saying something like "...everyone knows that the wrestler's worst enemy is the dreaded chi bolt" or some other such nonsense. Pressure points are a sore spot with a lot of people here; they often go hand-in-hand with poor, unrealistic teaching and your mentioning of them probably tripped a lot of alarms in peoples' heads.

Now, one last thing: "What do you mean by TMA artists are more respectable people"?

Marital Status: CURRENTLY DOING TRADITIONAL KARMA SUTRA FOR HOMO!

--Fatality Dragon

[Pandinha]

Blue Dragon...

Who are you again? You are the anon here. I know HAPKO3 skills as a fighter. I have sparred with him.

You are a poseur who is spewing useless conjecture at an audience that is laughing at you publicly and privately.

If for one minute you think you can stop me with one punch or one kick as my 240lbs slams into you, you are living in lala land.

We all learn to fight in all ranges. You need to see that.



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"When we go to the ground, you are in my world. The ground is the ocean, I am the shark, and most people don't even know how to swim." RCJ Machado

[SifuAbel]

" I'm gonna drop my asshole persona for a moment and level with you:"

LOL! Gee boy, don't strain yourself.

[blue-dragon]

Ok HAPKO3 I see what your saying. I agree with you about the wrestling not being the only way to win. Thats my only argument here I'm not trying to piss anybody off. If I did I apologize.

[blue-dragon]

And another thing. Challenging me in these conditions prove you and whoever unrespectable, reason for saying TMA artist are more respectable.

[blue-dragon]

I'm not a big believer in pressure points, but giving the right situation I would use one. I have no idea it was a problem word here.