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    not so private lesson on stances

    Just me being masochistic here but it is the only video that I have prepared for YouTube until I get my system sorted and can start producing more 'professional' footage.

    So the idea is more for a technical discussion, but feel free to abuse me as it my shame for 33 years of Wing Chun that I have been conditioned/brainwashed to be able to justify everything I do both practically as well as theoretically.

    Here are sections from a private lesson with my student Mike, just interested in how it translates outside the session as it was not meant as a promotional thing, simply him recording his class so he could review it later.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=020nklHTG6E

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUgmOz6l-FY

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWGBOeYE0KQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoCn1ZI5t-w

    Already had a comment:-

    "How can two be bull [email protected] so much on nothing? You don't shift your center of gravity to your front leg, unless you get to the stage where you are qualify to learn BJD. Basically I am witnessing two half ass chiefs talking about how to turn authentic Chinese banquet dishes into Chop Suey!"

    My reply:-

    "This half assed chef is trying to explain that it is important to understand energy and structure off the rear leg not the front leg, bringing the knives into consideration is irrelevant and I would always rather have a meal full of different tasty bits than an authentic dish of fish nose soup, I have eaten it in Foshan and it is neither pleasant nor filling. I posted the videos to start a discussion on stance work, not as a statement of excellence, please educate me with technical details of what is wrong with the content rather than the usual "That is crap" statement without qualification."

    So not expecting too much approval lol. No, seriously I would like whatever criticism there is out there as how can I improve errors if I am not made aware of them.

    Cheers and dare say as Arnie said "I will be back!"

    Trevor
    Last edited by tjwingchun; 11/21/2006 7:26am, .

    #2
    I haven't seen your vids, but I can generalize that any time you find yourself arguing over minute differences in foot positioning, angle of the bend in your knees or whether you have 60% of your weight on the back foot or 55%, you are probably practicing some useless shit.

    Please forgive me if I misunderstood the nature of your post.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Matt W.
      I haven't seen your vids, but I can generalize that any time you find yourself arguing over minute differences in foot positioning, angle of the bend in your knees or whether you have 60% of your weight on the back foot or 55%, you are probably practicing some useless shit.

      Please forgive me if I misunderstood the nature of your post.
      My view is that if you are using a leg to drive, then it has 100% of the weight of your body operating on it, a split second later there can be 100% of the weight on your other leg, my useless shit is knowing what goes on at the point of contact not underneath the duvet.

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        #4
        I watched the first two clips, and now I want the 11 minutes of my life that I wasted on them back.

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          #5
          What the hell?

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            #6
            Originally posted by From Bell2Bell
            I watched the first two clips, and now I want the 11 minutes of my life that I wasted on them back.
            too late no hope for you:hitlerdan

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              #7
              Looks fine to me. My problem with WC is that when you're in Chi Sao range you'll probably get clinched if you're fighting someone trained in grappling, but your practice seems highly focues on practicality and live training. A little nit-picky on the details and step-by-step stuff for my tastes but I don't see where much of the criticism is coming from.
              "[Fighting for Points] is doubtless very pretty, and invariably draws applause, but preferences should always be given to blows that do some business, to good straight hits that do something toward finishing the fight.
              A man who has carefully trained for brilliant tapping play, will find himself considerably out of it in case he is called upon to do any real work."
              -A.J. Newton, Boxing.

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                #8
                My problem with WC is that it specializes entirely in nerdfighting range.
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                  #9
                  whats with all the grabby hand slappy shit. whatever happened to punching someone in the face?

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                    #10
                    The best decision of my life was not taking _ing _un. (I did aikido for two years instead . . . At least I learned how to fall).

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                      #11
                      I am strangely aroused by your accent...
                      Knowing is not enough, you must apply...
                      ...Willing is not enough you must do
                      ~Bruce Lee

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                        #12
                        Wierder than chinese country music.
                        Tough is not how you act, tough is how you train.

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                          #13
                          is this what most _ing _un training looks like??

                          no wonder it gets a bad rep, its worse looking that TKD (and i have attended a tkd class)

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by KempoFist
                            I am strangely aroused by your accent...
                            I am what is referred to as a "Geordie" that is someone from the Tyneside area, North East UK, can you imagine the confusion when Yip Chun got me onstage in Foshan at the opening of the Yip Man Museum to give a speech, people throughout the UK have trouble with my accent never mind the billions watching Chinese TV News.

                            Mike is from Carlisle which is the other side of the country so his accent has sheepish influences lol.

                            This was simply a private lesson covering a topic Mike wanted more information on, and that was how to use energy from the floor and up through the legs individually, maintaining a flexibility to fire off either foot once the contact range has been entered as an attacker or defender.

                            Mike has been with me for a few years now, he also has a fair experience of Tai Chi and over 12 years of Ju Jitsu before he started to train with me, so the discussions tend to be a bit in depth rather than the simplistic approach to teaching beginners.

                            Originally posted by Alex
                            whats with all the grabby hand slappy shit. whatever happened to punching someone in the face?
                            The punch in the face comes with lesson one, after that we look at ways of improving the power of the punch by adding energies from different muscle groups, the grabby, slappy shit comes a bit further down the line when learning how to deal with people who can fight, rather than a nugget who is just going to stand there while you hit them.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by tjwingchun
                              The punch in the face comes with lesson one, after that we look at ways of improving the power of the punch by adding energies from different muscle groups, the grabby, slappy shit comes a bit further down the line when learning how to deal with people who can fight, rather than a nugget who is just going to stand there while you hit them.
                              IME though, the grabby slappy shit dissolves after about 5 seconds of training with someone who won't play that game. Either they will want to clinch with you, which is very hard to stop with Wing Chun, or they will want to take you down, which is impossible to stop with Wing Chun.
                              If they try to start punching you, Wing Chun would have you "go in" on one of their punches, but most people don't train realistically enough for this. You can "go in" after a lunge punch, but not if the person has even a few months of training in boxing, or something like that.
                              Wing Chun might work if the exponent is a robot, but otherwise I am less convinced.

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