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first of all i never recalled sayng im an expert at martial arts, i even sayd im a newb to start with, and omega wtf is wrong with u, asking questions is stupid? who are u to call someone stupid, if i came to an online forum its to ask anything im concerned of stupid or not, if ur not gonna help and ur just going to be a dumbass just dont reply and stfu
im 17 and i been training for 2 month, but for what i can see people that have been training for about 2 years arent exactly good, just probably decent
the teacher is preety good tough and we do a lot of sparring every class,
in the same gym i got kickboxing classes tough, is kickboxing any good? is it only like punches and kicks or do they teach u some grabs and locks too? what would be more usefull for self defense?
omega dont post i dont care about ur opinion
thx everyone for tryng to help
Another sad example of how education systems are failing... 17 and can't write/post for shit. Minus Rep.
Wooty, where on Earth are you in South America? I understand that in Peru there is an small, nascent yet active MMA/Vale Tudo scene (they call it "Vale Todo") and that there's been a close exchange between Peruvian and Cuban wrestlers. Moreover, Peru, Brazil and Colombia have some pretty good Judokas (and, of course, Brazil have Vale Tudo and BJJ.)
Don't feel old. Me and my brother are the youngest trainees at our gym. The average student is much much older.
It's not a matter of you being old, but me being a young whelp.
yes lol, im only 17 im not a 45 year old out of shape fatso or something,
Well, I'm only 35, "not a 45 year old out of shape fatso", but I still agree that you're wasting your time.
If your Kung Fu school has San Shou, try that, if not, find a Muay Thai class somewhere. You've mentioned "kickboxing" but, unless I missed it, you didn't specify what kind. MT, some kind of American kickboxing, TKD (now with added Boxing Flavor!), or what?
Originally posted by WooTy
kick boxing sounds really interesting but im just average height and weight (1.70 and 68 kilograms aprox)
im afraid ill have to spend 2 years on shaolin kung fu to be the same level of fighting i would have in a more modern way of fighting as kickboxing
As everyone else here has already said, two years or twenty years wouldn't make a difference. If what you're learning is INEFFECTIVE, it simply will not become more effective by practicing longer. You can practice country line dancing, finger painting, and basket weaving for the next 2 years, and none of them will make you a better fighter either. Go fight.
Originally posted by WooTy
just like someone just sayd a few post before
"kickboxing would shit all over your shaolin bullshit. go there"
what do u guys think
EVERYONE agrees. You have your answer several times over. Quit Shaolin Kung Fu and take up grappling or kickboxing if you want to learn how to fight.
Tell us where in South America and someone might be able to help you find something. If you say Brazil, though, be prepared for some good-natured mockery (you would have to have lived under a rock for your entire life not to know any place to train there).
Apart from that (if I may add something into this discussion), kickboxing will probably have more "physical drills", being a competition-sport and all, instead of KF.
If I were you, I'd go for the kickboxing to become physical fit and be able to spar/take a punch or kick and give one, too.
You can always "later" go "soft" and go with a less "hard" (in sparring) MA.
And, there is also a lot of technique and tradition in MT. It's not just a simple "hack and slash" game...
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