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    BJJ and Judo.

    I was just curious. How much of a Judo syllabus is covered in your typical Brazilian Ju-Jitsu school ?

    #2
    Not sure this thread belongs in MA BS. The degree of standup depends on how much the coach knows, you will probably learn enough to get by but if you are after good standup skills however you shouldn't be looking into BJJ classes but Judo or wrestling. Speaking for my own class we do some takedowns like hook-behinds, single and double leg, head throws fairly frequently.

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      #3
      1. This forum is for discussion of Bullshido in the martial arts. Unless your claiming BJJ and Judo are Bullshido, this is the wrong forum. Your Martial Arts Suck (YMAS) would have been the better choice.

      2. If you had performed a cursory search, you would have found the many existing threads tangentially answering your question. Most BS members would prefer if newer members made greater use of the Search Function. The Search Function tab is located at the center and top of every page, along with the other Forum User Controls. I admit this search would have taken some serious digging to find applicable answers, which leads me to..

      3. It depends on the dojo. A substantial number of BJJ practitioners crosstrain in Judo and vice-versa. Naturally Judo is often taught in at least an unofficial manner in these dojos. Some places judo is not taught at all, I'm sure. I suspect, given the prevalence of crosstraining these days, Judo can be found in more than 50% of BJJ dojos. However, there is no quick and definitive answer to your question.

      A better question might be: How much of the Judo syllabus is taught in my local BJJ dojo? But you'd have to go actually ask them, assuming there is one near you to ask. Or you could ask a staff member to make this thread a poll and ask the BJJ members here if Judo is taught where they train.
      Shut the hell up and train.

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        #4
        OMG I HAVE A QUESTION: What is better, Judo or BJJ?

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          #5
          What they said :P

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            #6
            Originally posted by Yrkoon9
            OMG I HAVE A QUESTION: What is better, Judo or BJJ?
            Filthy crosstrainer.
            Shut the hell up and train.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Kikaku
              I was just curious. How much of a Judo syllabus is covered in your typical Brazilian Ju-Jitsu school ?
              The styles are actually quite different and have a lot of techniques and principles that conflic with each other, so I'd suspect not much. It's like asking "how much boxing in TKD?"

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                #8
                Well we know that Judo pretty much covers all of the BJJ curriculum...you know. Or that's what I have heard. Mostly from Judo guys. Who haven't done any BJJ.

                C'MON PEOPLE WORK WITH ME HERE. WTF?

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                  #9
                  You know, if your brother Rickson worked on his throws at a real Judo club, he could be a competitor.
                  "Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't fuck with me!"

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                    #10
                    To paraphrase a judoka I trained with: "There is no need to change anything in Kodokan Judo - Kano got everything right."

                    This means that BJJ is wrong.

                    QED.
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                      #11
                      From my experience, not much is taught. Mostly because the philosophy and focus is completely different.

                      They have evolved apart over the paths that they have taken.

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                        #12
                        What Mongo said. I just enrolled at this BJJ school (the second one I've been to), and, just like the one I previously went, beyond single and double leg takedowns there is no stand-up at all. Compare that to the typical Judo school where 80% or more is purely stand-up. Or to look it another way, a BJJ school will be mostly gi and no-gi grappling complimented with wrestling takedowns, whereas a typical Judo school will devote 20% or less to newaza (grappling.)

                        They are two completely different animals... that can complement each other rather nicely if you have the time, inclination and a brain free of nutriding neural pathways. Here, read this article regarding BJJ and Judo. It's like milk, that is, it will do you good :)

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                          #13
                          I started BJJ about a month and a half ago, twice or three times a week. Haven't learned any standup/judo throws/takedowns yet, although I'm sure a few of the ground positions/submissions in the BJJ I've learned might also be found in judo.

                          Went to my first judo class yesterday, where I'll train once a week so I can learn some throws/takedowns... I think the two styles could complement each other well.

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                            #14
                            The only standup we've worked in my BJJ classes are takedown defenses and your basic single or double leg takedowns. Judo, on the other hand is spent about 50/50 standup/ground.
                            "Keep a sharp knife, shiny boots and be on time."

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                              #15
                              a question about judo in self defense i dont want to start another thread. ok i get into a altercation or self defense situation. they guy attacks i throw him to the ground with a judo throw. my question is now what do i do next.. i know there are some submissions i could follow up with maybe. but i already have standing position why go to the ground.

                              now i kinow alot of people say run ,but what if im in a closed area and throwing someone does not T.K.O them.

                              what am i supppose to do. wait for him to get back up.

                              i liek judo and jujitsu,but before i sign up for a class. i kind of want to know where practionersw fall on this.

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