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    Bruce Lee

    Was reading another forum and inspred me to start another thread...

    As popular as Bruce Lee is as a reference for wing chun, I have never seen him fight in a way that remotely resembles wing chun except for one short clip of him doing about 2 seconds of a wing chun training drill.

    Does anyone have any clips of him using wing chun or wanna discuss the topic of bruce lee's alleged wing chun?

    #2
    bruce lee was a really wicked martial artists, he was one of the best, although he never sparred people 'alive'.

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      #3
      The only formal training Bruce Lee had was a minimal amount of time spent under Yip Man, where he was (reportedly) the only student Man would chi sao with, since Bruce was (again allegedly) the only person in the gym good enough to challenge the master or "not degrade the master's skills" whatever that means.

      There are aspects of Wing Chun energy drills alive in JKD Concepts; they are minimal and used are building blocks for other things, better things. There is far more boxing and fencing in JKD than any other arts, in many ways.

      Bruce Lee was a fabulous athlete, a pioneer of anti-bullshido martial arts and a pretty solid actor in many ways. Whether he could FIGHT or not is open to endless pointless debate.

      Bruce should be acknowledged as the spiritual father of MMA and "do what works" training and admired for his effort and dedication. Other than that, HE WAS JUST A FUCKING GUY OKAY?
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        #4
        there's a video somewhere (you can probably search for it on youtube) of one of Bruce Lee's rooftop battles. It was tragic, and if it was any indication of Bruce Lee's skill... I pity all the idiots that deify him. There's also a video of him wearing an umpire suit sparring with some dude that's a total snore fest.
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          #5
          That's from "Game of Death". Didn't make it into the movie.
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            #6
            people say Lee was a WC guy because they want to believe in WC

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              #7
              which would be similar to saying "operatic dance is a good martial art because jackie chan does it"
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                #8
                Wing chun.

                There's a reason why Bruce stopped doing wing chun and focused on trying to figure out how to bring combat out of the dark ages.

                He also shut down all of his JKD schools.

                Wait.. Bruce is psychically contacting me.....he has a message for you now...

                Bruce says to STFU and get a life. That is all.

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                  Yeah I've seen that rooftop one and the comp one as well but seriously those fights could just be random guys fighting and also those fights really don't give much insight about him as a fighter even if it is him.

                  Originally posted by Gnosis
                  bruce lee was a really wicked martial artists, he was one of the best, although he never sparred people 'alive'.
                  He did get challenged a lot though and consistently defended himself but according to rumor he did get beaten up by some black guys once. I'm personally not too sure whether he was a good fighter.

                  Originally posted by JKDChick
                  The only formal training Bruce Lee had was a minimal amount of time spent under Yip Man, where he was (reportedly) the only student Man would chi sao with, since Bruce was (again allegedly) the only person in the gym good enough to challenge the master or "not degrade the master's skills" whatever that means.
                  Sounds like a rumor to me, he learnt only a small part of the system. Also he wasn't taught the inch punch (the traditional one, i'm aware he did the 'inch-punch' but this was his own version which he taught himself) because as a student he had a bad attitude. Note this is not MY opinion so flaming me is pretty pointless, i'm only recounting what happened. It was his teachers that held this view.

                  Originally posted by JKDChick
                  Bruce should be acknowledged as the spiritual father of MMA and "do what works" training and admired for his effort and dedication. Other than that, HE WAS JUST A FUCKING GUY OKAY?
                  No need to make fun of the guy.

                  Originally posted by Reese
                  Wing chun.

                  There's a reason why Bruce stopped doing wing chun and focused on trying to figure out how to bring combat out of the dark ages.
                  He stopped doing wing chun cause he was a crybaby and left when they wouldn't teach him the inch punch.
                  Originally posted by Reese
                  He also shut down all of his JKD schools.
                  Officially he only declared one of his students a teacher of his style which was that phillipino guy or whatever i don't know his name.
                  Originally posted by Reese
                  Wait.. Bruce is psychically contacting me.....he has a message for you now...

                  Bruce says to STFU and get a life. That is all.
                  Nobody is making you read my thread mate, if you don't want to you don't have to.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jackal
                    Does anyone have any clips of him using wing chun or wanna discuss the topic of bruce lee's alleged wing chun?
                    From memory, he speaks about it in his audition tapes, when he was brought in by Stirling Silliphant to show producers his stuff. He spoke about Kung Fu's superiority over Karate, by comparing the power of the strikes. He also praised the simplicity of WC. Again, this is from memory - he might have been talking about Kung Fu generically.
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                      #11
                      Maurice Smith listed JKD as his style as he won MT belt after belt. He was still listing it when we won the UFC's heavyweight title.

                      Randy Coutre (a champion wrestler) crosstrained at Matt Thornton's Straight Blast Gym in JKD to learn standup. He became one of the longest reigning titleholders in the UFC afterwards. To be fair, Matt dropped WC trapping for Greco Roman clinching and takedowns in their school because of Randy and Dan Henderson's influence. (JKD was always meant to evolve.)

                      Erik Paulson listed JKD as his style when he won Shooto titles.

                      That is all.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jackal
                        He stopped doing wing chun cause he was a crybaby and left when they wouldn't teach him the inch punch
                        stop making stupid shit up, it offends me, Bruce AND the Shaolin temple.


                        Officially he only declared one of his students a teacher of his style which was that phillipino guy or whatever i don't know his name.
                        His "style" is "no style". He just didn't want to leave Inosanto a big nobody, which is how bruce found him.

                        Nobody is making you read my thread mate, if you don't want to you don't have to.
                        I love your thread. As I said before, Bruce is the one who thinks it sucks.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jackal
                          Yeah I've seen that rooftop one and the comp one as well but seriously those fights could just be random guys fighting and also those fights really don't give much insight about him as a fighter even if it is him.

                          He did get challenged a lot though and consistently defended himself but according to rumor he did get beaten up by some black guys once. I'm personally not too sure whether he was a good fighter.

                          Sounds like a rumor to me, he learnt only a small part of the system. Also he wasn't taught the inch punch (the traditional one, i'm aware he did the 'inch-punch' but this was his own version which he taught himself) because as a student he had a bad attitude. Note this is not MY opinion so flaming me is pretty pointless, i'm only recounting what happened. It was his teachers that held this view.

                          No need to make fun of the guy.

                          He stopped doing wing chun cause he was a crybaby and left when they wouldn't teach him the inch punch.
                          Officially he only declared one of his students a teacher of his style which was that phillipino guy or whatever i don't know his name.
                          Nobody is making you read my thread mate, if you don't want to you don't have to.


                          Your whole post is full of rumors.

                          How the hell do you refute rumors with rumors? That is just stupid.

                          Baji, Hsing-I, and many other arts have the dreaded 1 and 3 inch punch. Hell boxing has it you see it when someone is knocked out with a jab.

                          t was never called 1 inch and 3 inch punch until BL coined the phrase. A better term is short power.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jackal
                            Sounds like a rumor to me, he learnt only a small part of the system. Also he wasn't taught the inch punch (the traditional one, i'm aware he did the 'inch-punch' but this was his own version which he taught himself) because as a student he had a bad attitude. Note this is not MY opinion so flaming me is pretty pointless, i'm only recounting what happened. It was his teachers that held this view.
                            Oh man, you are so gonna get schooled here. Everything you said was heresay. Not a word of it has any substantial proof. Yet despite that you insist that what you are saying is fact. It's probably just the opinions of other people you have heard or just a bunch of rumor mongering from your own WTF sensei/sifu.

                            The people here at bullshido like to dwell on imperical evidence, not a bunch of useless heresay.
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                              #15
                              Wasn't his fight with chuck norris in Way/Return of the Dragon showed a bit of WC? The trap/hit, chain-punches are distinctly Wing Chun.

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