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    How many grappling techniques have you found in your Kata/Forms?

    We all know that the only way to really fight is to practice Kata or forms. Sure, Sparring, Bagwork, Padwork, Exercise, etc. is fine if you want to be a brawler, but to be a truly skilled martial artist one must look into their Kata and find the answers they seek. MMA thugs often critisize Kata and Karate for having no groundwork, but what they don't know is that if your really look at your Kata you will find all the groundfighting you need. I have already found the following techniques:

    Pinan Shodan: 2 Guard passes, Armbar
    Pinan Nidan: Heelhook, Guard pass
    Pinan Sandan: Triangle, Keylock
    Pinan Yondan: Scissors sweep, Omoplata
    Pinan Godan: Bicep slicer, Crucifix
    Niahanchi Shodan: Guillotine, 3 Sweeps
    Niahanchi Nidan: Elevator Sweep, Helicopter Arm Bar
    Rohai: Spawl, Kimura
    Chinto: RNC, 2 Mount escapes, Neck crank

    This is just after a few hours of practice, hopefully others will post techniques thay have found so a free and communal exchange of ideas can take place.

    #2
    I have unlocked the code on the following ninjitsu kamae.

    Armbar escape.


    Mount, mount escape and rear mount. (and escape)


    Look at the position of the legs. Tell me that this isn't a coded message for triangle choke and half-guard.


    Sprawl.


    Double armbar.


    Kneebar, achilles lock, heel hook and most leglocks.


    People need to understand that in the past, when masters were real masters, you couldn't just lie someone on the ground, mount up and demonstrate "how do armbar". You had to hide it in a kata, preferably in one that looks nothing like the skill you are trying to teach. If only boxers could catch onto this method. Closing your eyes and spinning around in a circle, while hopping on one leg and flapping your arms up and down like a stoned chicken is a great leadup skill to the right cross.
    Last edited by Virus; 4/01/2006 5:01pm, .

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      #3
      Originally posted by odacon
      MMA thugs often critisize Kata and Karate for having no groundwork, but what they don't know is that if your really look at your Kata you will find all the groundfighting you need.
      You are such an idiot. We just covered Dim Mak in Boxing today, and if I knew where you lived, I would kick your ass. And then your heart would stop. Because I kicked your ass. With Dim Mak.

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        #4
        Boxing? That doesn't even have kicks, that won't work at all!!

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          #5
          i dunno about this stuff. it's dangerous.

          i started delving into a little of the "enchanted TKD takedown" when i was young and stupid, and almost killed an innocent bystander. who was my dog, percy. i've never touched that stuff since.

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            #6
            i like how they both have thier arms chambered in that pic of the TKD takedown

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              #7
              it's the most effective place to put your hands when grappling, didn't you know?

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                #8
                I found at least like a million. Maybe two million.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Virus
                  People need to understand that in the past, when masters were real masters, you couldn't just lie someone on the ground, mount up and demonstrate "how do armbar". You had to hide it in a kata, preferably in one that looks nothing like the skill you are trying to teach. If only boxers could catch onto this method. Closing your eyes and spinning around in a circle, while hopping on one leg and flapping your arms up and down like a stoned chicken is a great leadup skill to the right cross.
                  Yeah well it may be funny to you but i like the fact that it might take me a few lessons to learn a section of a form which contains a number of techniques in the same time it might take to learn a single technique for some other MA styles.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jackal
                    Yeah well it may be funny to you but i like the fact that it might take me a few lessons to learn a section of a form which contains a number of techniques in the same time it might take to learn a single technique for some other MA styles.
                    don't worry, it can take years to get good at a single technique in styles like BJJ or muay thai.

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                      #11
                      After applying the Concept that Grand Great Grandgrandmaster Phil is demonstrating here, I discovered that Wing Chun invented the Gogoplata:



                      This Concept, when applied to teh grappling, immediately results in a Kimura, as I'm sure you can see:



                      And finally, here you can see the Concept of a bahiana:




                      I should add, if you can't see where the techniques are coming from then you don't really understand Wing Chun. It's all about Concepts people!

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                        #12
                        This thread has made my day :inlove:

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                          #13
                          This Concept, when applied to teh grappling, immediately results in a Kimura, as I'm sure you can see:



                          [/QUOTE]

                          Holy shit, you made me fucking cry and I'm still laughing..........:biggrin:

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by GoldenJonas
                            This Concept, when applied to teh grappling, immediately results in a Kimura, as I'm sure you can see:


                            Holy shit, you made me fucking cry and I'm still laughing..........:biggrin:[/QUOTE]


                            .......my face hurts............

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                              #15
                              Heh...

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