Anti Grappling

[Bluto Blutarsky]

was that guy in the white shirt falling because he tripped or was he actually shooting?

I think this might be a valid defence against an opponent who just happened to trip and is falling towards the ground just in front of you.

[urasj]

He should turtle and wait til the refs stand him up. :)

[bjjgame]

First, if somebody "boxed my ears" while I had them in the side mount, I would elbow them to death. Secondly, is there ANYBODY with even ONE DAY of grappling training that would turn their back to an attacker like this:

[kaoskd]

THE ULTIMATE WAY TO DESTROY ANY GRAPPLER........... Learn how to grapple!

[Letum]

For some reason I equate this thread with MC Hammer.

[TheSparrow]

I can't believe this thread ain't dead. :karated:

[tyciol]

I found the armadillo pictures to be pretty entertaining. Jumping just doesn't come to mind when you think of armadillos. It should, I mean with that one Armadillo-Man or whatever boss in Megaman, and all the ones you fight in Donkey Kong Country, they should stimulate you to remember the agility of the avaracious armadillo.

[greenpatch11]

this is really depressing,what more to say.let em try that on the street.and film that.

[khaledonia]

wt..f......

[Kozma]

This one sentence is at the heart of the matter.

Sidetracking a bit, has anyone successfully performed a judo-like sacrificial throw like sumi-gaeshi, tawara-gaeshi or yoko-wakare to counter a wrestler's takedown?

Yeah, this happened to me.

[TheUberSith]

I'm just confused as to whom is attempting to grapple whom...

[Scott]

It's a little different taking about Gracie/Huges and what goes on in a local MMA tournament. It may be that Gracie's muay thai would be fine against someone like me. Against Matt Huges...he is after all a world-class fighter, so things that work a little differently. It is not at all unusual (in my experience) for BJJ fighters to have 1st and 2nd degree black belts in TKD, or karate systems. They may not be the best strikers in the world, but they're hardly beginners.

[Vankuen]

Doc, I think you have missed the whole point here. Grappling has demonstrated that it can hold its own against even the best strikers in the world. Chi Sao has not. There is nothing you have said that would convince anyone that it can. The fact that not one single practitioner of chi sao has stood up and demonstrated that it can, in spite of repeatedly publishing videos on the Internet claiming it can, is nothing short of chicken.

RobT, thanks for the information.

For some reason this post reminded me of when Royce Gracie tried to come back to fight Matt Hughes, showing his "cross training" in muay thai. I knew when I watched the clips of his half ass training that it wouldn't do him any good against Hughes...and when the fight came down, Hughes' wrestling and pounding made Gracie look like an amatuer.

[Scott]

El Macho, this is an interesting point. I'm sure there are people who have trained BJJ outside of your description, but I don't know anyone who actively competes who is different. This is a point I often comment on when there are visitors to our club who ask about traditional styles of martial arts training; that everyone in my club has years of training in striking styles, regardless of whether or not they fight MMA. While there are kung fu practitioners who talk about cross-training in grappling or incorporating grappling into their styles, it invariable is some form that most competitive grapplers would not recognize, such as training without mats or the form training of Chin Na or Aikido.

[Teh El Macho]

How often do pure grapplers defend against strikes? once a week?

Depends. Those who crosstrain with MMA or some form of boxing/kickboxing would do so every time they practice. On average that would be once or twice a week.

Then there are the pure, pure grapplers don't train with strikes. But mind you, most of them already come from a MMA, shootfighting or some form of kickboxing or KF background - now they are just chilling or they find pure grappling more entertaining.

In fact, I cannot remember one BJJer (of the few I know mind you) that either do not cross-train with MMA/kickboxing once or twice a week at least, or that do not come from a striking art at all.