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    Kuk Sul Won Video

    http://hapkido.re.kr/hapkido/3388/movie_53.asf

    A demo clip. This was posted on MAP forums. I'm posting it for entertainment value, they can do some nice trickx.

    #2
    ouch. crazy how they willing smack themselves into the floor like that. and then get back up and yell. lots o martial artists dont like this stuff, but i think it is cool as long as they dont present it as a fighting system

    wushu is better :)

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      #3
      those were the most dramatic break falls i have ever seen. Nice acrobatics though.

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        #4
        Originally posted by nezha
        ouch. crazy how they willing smack themselves into the floor like that. and then get back up and yell. lots o martial artists dont like this stuff, but i think it is cool as long as they dont present it as a fighting system

        wushu is better :)
        There's a lot more to Kuk Sool than what you saw there. It's not a performance art like modern wushu. Kuk Sool is basically Hapkido with a few extras. Now if you're not into TMA's at all or think they're all worthless then it may not make a difference. I just thought I'd point out there's more to Kuk Sool than what you're seeing.

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          #5
          Are acrobatics part of Kuk Sool Won's curriculum? For example, do you have to know how to do a cartwheel to get X belt? The breakfalls I can understand, but some people aren't able to do those flips and stuff. I wish I knew how to do those things, very flashy.

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            #6
            Acrobatics are part of the curriculum, as in they're taught. However, they're not required for promotion. I can do cartwheels and 1 hand cartwheels just fine, but I can't do front flips and back handsprings. I still promoted though because it wasn't part of the tests.

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              #7
              im pretty sure that thats not required but i dont take ksw. oh and the chick wasnt very good but still :hitit: :5butthead . Only cool thing she did was arial. and it was pretty sexy when she grunted. mmmm :love7: :ohyea7qh:
              Last edited by HwangJangLee; 1/19/2006 8:23pm, .

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                #8

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                  #9
                  because kumdo is pretty much the same thing as kendo.

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                    #10
                    More Crappy Form Fairy Xtreme (non)Martial Action .

                    Nothing to see here unless you wanna sit through ten minutes of forms and compliant SUPER Flashy Hapkido .
                    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
                    BILL HICKS,
                    1961-1994

                    "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
                    ---Jean-Paul Sartre

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by KSWolf
                      There's a lot more to Kuk Sool than what you saw there. It's not a performance art like modern wushu. Kuk Sool is basically Hapkido with a few extras. Now if you're not into TMA's at all or think they're all worthless then it may not make a difference. I just thought I'd point out there's more to Kuk Sool than what you're seeing.
                      sweet. i wish san shou had some performance elements in it, itd be great for parties or whatever. i hate being asked to do 'kung fu tricks' by people expecting me to do backflips and spin kicks when the best i can do is like.... yar! rear cross!

                      and hey, no need to get all defensive. i didnt say anything against TMA or kuk sool

                      p[X]c

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by nezha
                        sweet. i wish san shou had some performance elements in it, itd be great for parties or whatever. i hate being asked to do 'kung fu tricks' by people expecting me to do backflips and spin kicks when the best i can do is like.... yar! rear cross!

                        and hey, no need to get all defensive. i didnt say anything against TMA or kuk sool

                        p[X]c
                        Sorry, didn't mean to come off as defensive. Lots of people aren't into the whole TMA thing, so sometimes I almost feel obligated to point out it may not be your cup of tea, but some of us are into it. It wasn't really meant to sound defensive.

                        On a side note, the video really doesn't do much to display the large part of KSW that is the jointlocking and throwing curriculum. I can definitly see why just watching that video makes one think it's a flashy show off art. These students just happen to excel in acrobatics.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by KSWolf
                          On a side note, the video really doesn't do much to display the large part of KSW that is the jointlocking and throwing curriculum. I can definitly see why just watching that video makes one think it's a flashy show off art. These students just happen to excel in acrobatics.
                          I honestly think some acrobatic skill should be taught when learning Martial Arts . Basic break falls , tumbling , maybe some arial work . Mainly for self exploration and finding the limits of what you can do ... ( and get away with without injury ) .

                          But ... seriously ... there is a point where you draw the line . Acrobatics and tumbling should be BASICS in the curriculum . The Black belts shouldnt be pimping this crap , like it's some culmination of the years they spent at their art . IF this is the end Result of KSW then I am disapointed ... greatly ...
                          I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
                          BILL HICKS,
                          1961-1994

                          "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
                          ---Jean-Paul Sartre

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                            #14
                            During the Josun dynasty, which where part of Kuk Sool supposedly draws it's inspiration, four ryuha of Japanese swordsmanship had an influence on the Korean military arts.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Method2Madness
                              those were the most dramatic break falls i have ever seen.
                              I second that :eusa_doh:
                              Knowing is not enough, you must apply...
                              ...Willing is not enough you must do
                              ~Bruce Lee

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