Selection pressure throughout history

[Lily]

“Nice guys” are fucking slimy. They’re weak and usually angry. It’s not in a man’s nature to feel good about themselves when they’re ass kissers. When they have to resort to that behavior to get by in the world, it causes all sorts of self loathing and sneakiness that nobody wants to deal with.

Basically, it’s a feminine characteristic. They’re weak, so they become manipulative, which is a female strategy to cope with their inherent weakness.

So ‘nice’ immediately means ‘ass kissing’? There are no shades in your world dude.

[Dr. Gonzo]

[Devil]

Not really. I recall the Devil of ‘07.

I didn’t recall this level of hatred towards women.

It feels like he is trying so hard to convince others of his world view to make it ‘truth’. I can’t imagine he says this stuff IRL, that or I’ve never come across this type of person who is over 25.

Haha! I fucking LOVE women. I just recognize their flaws and like them anyway. That’s why they like me so much in return. They get to be accepted by someone despite the fact that they’re weak, fucked up, selfish, child-like, emotionally driven creatures incapable of functioning in a logical manner. I enjoy them without putting them on a pedestal. It’s exactly what they want.

[Devil]

[Dr. Gonzo]

[AprilRains]

Haha! I fucking LOVE women. I just recognize their flaws and like them anyway. That’s why they like me so much in return. They get to be accepted by someone despite the fact that they’re weak, fucked up, selfish, child-like, emotionally driven creatures incapable of functioning in a logical manner. I enjoy them without putting them on a pedestal. It’s exactly what they want.

Yes, and the same with men. Appreciate them for what they are, not for what you demand they become. The sons of bitches often have sterling qualities. The nice guys? Never be at their mercy. Ever. Kill yourself first.

[Dr. Gonzo]

For that matter, I just told a female and a male grappling student yesterday,

in public, that neither one of them had enough ass, or leg musculature,

to maximize the potential goodness of their leg shots,

and I wanted them both to get a proper strength and conditioning coach

to build up their legs and ass for greater strength and explosive power.

[Devil]

But Lily, I’ll give you a more serious answer.

No, nothing happened with my ex that changed my view on women. The subsequent events with other women over the past few years have certainly been an eye opener. They have made me more wary. Much more aware of the inherent selfishness people will display. And honestly, I believe on average men are more loyal than women. I’ve just seen too many women being cold-hearted as fuck to men that absolutely worshipped them. I’ve seen too many women being themselves fully, in a way that a lot of men never see. I basically gave them a judgment free zone and made it easy for them to do whatever they wanted in secrecy and for sure, it will always make me be more wary in any relationship going forward.

There have been many examples. But here’s one of the starkest. I saw a woman off and on for a couple years. She was Mrs. Perfect in everyone’s eyes. Perfect mom. Perfect wife. Church lady. Everybody’s friend. Non-scandalous sexual past. Been with the same dude since college. I’ve known her for a long time and everybody loves her.

Husband is a stand up guy. Good father and husband. Great job. Respectable. Dependable. Loyal. Not terrible looking. Not fat or disgusting or anything.

I ran into her at a dinner party without her husband there. It took about three glasses of wine for none of that shit at home to matter to her anymore.

For the duration of time that I saw her, we had the filthiest sex. It thrilled her to go out of her way to satisfy any whim of mine. She liked being dominated physically, degraded verbally, etc.

I fucked her in her husband’s bed multiple times with her wedding picture on the wall. She enjoyed telling me how much better I was than him and sometimes she liked telling me what a bitch he was while I was fucking her.

I fucked her on his birthday. On their anniversary. While he was out with the kids for the day. She would encourage him to get away and do things to “relax on his own” on the weekends so she could bring me over, cook big meals for me and suck my dick on demand.

More than once I fucked her while she was on the phone with him. She enjoyed that a lot.

She was proud of what she was doing with me. I know she told at least one or two of her friends about it. She couldn’t help herself. All while the nice guy was trusting her and doing exactly what he was supposed to do.

So, that’s just one example. It’s not unique, either. I have other similar stories. So, if my views seemed to have changed, it’s only because of increased awareness.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Must you attempt to seduce Lily in front of us, Devil?

[Devil]

Yes, and the same with men. Appreciate them for what they are, not for what you demand they become. The sons of bitches often have sterling qualities. The nice guys? Never be at their mercy. Ever. Kill yourself first.

I think men are genuinely more capable of loyalty and consistent, unbending love. Men are more emotionally stable, on average. That’s not women’s fault, and I don’t hate them for it. That’s just how they’re wired.

[Devil]

Must you attempt to seduce Lily in front of us, Devil?

I’m not even. I consider it a horror story.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I’m not even. I consider it a horror story.

Indeed, I thought it was horrible.

If she did those things without his consent, she is pretty foul.

I suspect he was hiding in the closet, watching your ass, during the act though.

Each to his or her own pleasures, I suppose.

[Devil]

Indeed, I thought it was horrible.

If she did those things without his consent, she is pretty foul.

I suspect he was hiding in the closet, watching your ass, during the act though.

Each to his or her own pleasures, I suppose.

[Dr. Gonzo]

He was totally unaware. I’ve moved on and they’re still “happily married.” He’s completely clueless, mostly because he’s a good person and thinks the world of his wife. He trusts her and thinks she’s as good as he is. He’d probably bet his house that she would never cheat on him in a million years. Oops.

I am curious, did you feel no moral regret because of the third party being so ill used by their spouse?

And was there a thrill regarding possibly getting caught?

Cuckolded spouses have been know to commit murder for walking in to inflagrante delicto situations.

[AprilRains]

It's likely true. There's no point being judgy about it. It's just how people are.

Nice guys are not loyal, however. I wasn't kidding about never being at their mercy. I'm not Wabbit; I don't say things for fun. Underneath their exterior, the most awful things are there, and all the more awful because they are hidden even from themselves.