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[Lily]

Lily have you ever approached your husband and he asked you how your day went? Then after a bit of run down, turn the conversation to begin again to complain about the same coworker(s) you have been speaking about for the last month or so?

Or some other close version on this melodrama...?

[Dr. Gonzo]

Lily have you ever approached your husband and he asked you how your day went? Then after a bit of run down, turn the conversation to begin again to complain about the same coworker(s) you have been speaking about for the last month or so?

Or some other close version on this melodrama...?

Don't answer that, Lily.

Get one of our robots and tell Lantern to piss off.

[lant3rn]

Mr Lily is the ‘all life is suffering’ partner in the relationship. I’m positive ;)

Lily have you ever approached your husband and he asked you how your day went? Then after a bit of run down, turn the conversation to begin again to complain about the same coworker(s) you have been speaking about for the last month or so?

Or some other close version on this melodrama...?

[Lily]

[hungryjoe]

I will be selling my house and getting a divorce in the coming year. Someone is about to realize she doesn't know how much it costs to live alone and shoulder the cost of the things that crop up in life. The expenses of repairs, replacements and emergencies to be addressed in life.

I on the other hand will have much more discretionary spending, savings and possibly a new robot. Given I name my autos, certain tools and house plants, this new addition will need a moniker.

Hungry Ho possibly.

[lant3rn]

Nattering nabobs of negativity...

I hear you. I discuss with my wife about how we should stay positive.

Everybody needs to vent, but, venting over old shit (like decades) is just counterproductive.

I just tell her to focus on how wonderful I am, and how happy she is with me, and how fortunate we are, and she will feel better right away.

So that approach works with your wife?

I try often steer the conversation towards something positive sometimes.. I have mixed results.

sometimes that approach is too on the nose, and then I get accused of not listening or she goes silent and grumpy... then I feel bad.. well a little bit.


I really do hope you and your wife make it through your upcoming ordeal. My mother had both cervical and stomach cancer and helping her through treatment was a emotional roller coaster for her and I.

I think we both are stronger for the experience and she has been cancer free for a year now.

So feel free to take any shots at me for anything stupid I write on here in the future, I probably deserve it, and for me having an outlet for frustration helped.

[BKR]

Having to sit there and listen to complaining and venting, continues be the biggest challenge in my life in regards to socialising with women... I can't help but try and offer advice sometimes, even if I know I should just nod my head and be supportive.

the wife rehashing the same old complaints about work and I friends might make me subconsciously kill off the oratory parts of my brain one day.

Nattering nabobs of negativity...

I hear you. I discuss with my wife about how we should stay positive.

Everybody needs to vent, but, venting over old shit (like decades) is just counterproductive.

I just tell her to focus on how wonderful I am, and how happy she is with me, and how fortunate we are, and she will feel better right away.

[BKR]

Well, I think his dick is going to catch on fire at some point.

He is sleeping with some real dirty butt women.

Which is a sizeable percentage of the women out there,

I'll grant you that.

What is needed gentlemen, are my forthcoming line of sex robots.

Much, much, more easy to keep in non-filthy bacteria and fungal pit conditions compared to actual female snatch.

Plus, unlike most women, these robots are all guaranteed to be good in bed with the latest in animatronic pelvic range of motion.

Yes, yes, they will make you a sandwich,

and not ask questions about the movie you are both watching during the movie, as if you weren't watching it for the first time too,

and have a mute and off button.

Financing not available but lay-away (get it?!) plans are...

Well, we all have our biases.

Yours and Devil's and mine should be pretty clear regarding women, among other things, by now.

[lant3rn]

We also have male robots that will listen to every detail about your friend's shoes,

mow the yard, do the dishes, and the laundry,

and not offer stupid solutions when you just want to be listened to.

And Lily, we have female robots that will claim to be men,

let you boss them mercilessly,

but still look like women and have real vaginas as you prefer.

Having to sit there and listen to complaining and venting, continues be the biggest challenge in my life in regards to socialising with women... I can't help but try and offer advice sometimes, even if I know I should just nod my head and be supportive.

the wife rehashing the same old complaints about work and friends might make me subconsciously kill off the oratory parts of my brain one day.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Well, I think his dick is going to catch on fire at some point.

He is sleeping with some real dirty butt women.

Which is a sizeable percentage of the women out there,

I'll grant you that.

What is needed gentlemen, are my forthcoming line of sex robots.

Much, much, more easy to keep in non-filthy bacteria and fungal pit conditions compared to actual female snatch.

Plus, unlike most women, these robots are all guaranteed to be good in bed with the latest in animatronic pelvic range of motion.

Yes, yes, they will make you a sandwich,

and not ask questions about the movie you are both watching during the movie, as if you weren't watching it for the first time too,

and have a mute and off button.

Financing not available but lay-away (get it?!) plans are...

We also have male robots that will listen to every detail about your friend's shoes,

mow the yard, do the dishes, and the laundry,

and not offer stupid solutions when you just want to be listened to.

And Lily, we have female robots that will claim to be men,

let you boss them mercilessly,

but still look like women and have real vaginas as you prefer.

[Dr. Gonzo]

It seems to me you are very focused on cheating in relationships.

Trust is of course paramount. I trust my wife with access to all of our money, property, you name it. We do know each other's phone passcodes, too. I don't think she knows how to log bs.net, but she reads over my shoulder frequently.

Like, who is that Devil asshole, anyway, LOL!

Neither of us really gets involved with members of the opposite gender outside of business/work relationships. It's just a natural thing, really.

Of course, you are a lot younger than me, and still full of raging hormones. Not teenage level, but I recall being your age clearly, so I know how that is.

Anyway, I like your advice, and mostly agree with it.

Well, I think his dick is going to catch on fire at some point.

He is sleeping with some real dirty butt women.

Which is a sizeable percentage of the women out there,

I'll grant you that.

What is needed gentlemen, are my forthcoming line of sex robots.

Much, much, more easy to keep in non-filthy bacteria and fungal pit conditions compared to actual female snatch.

Plus, unlike most women, these robots are all guaranteed to be good in bed with the latest in animatronic pelvic range of motion.

Yes, yes, they will make you a sandwich,

and not ask questions about the movie you are both watching during the movie, as if you weren't watching it for the first time too,

and have a mute and off button.

Financing not available but lay-away (get it?!) plans are...

[BKR]

It seems to me you are very focused on cheating in relationships.

Trust is of course paramount. I trust my wife with access to all of our money, property, you name it. We do know each other's phone passcodes, too. I don't think she knows how to log bs.net, but she reads over my shoulder frequently.

Like, who is that Devil asshole, anyway, LOL!

Neither of us really gets involved with members of the opposite gender outside of business/work relationships. It's just a natural thing, really.

Of course, you are a lot younger than me, and still full of raging hormones. Not teenage level, but I recall being your age clearly, so I know how that is.

Anyway, I like your advice, and mostly agree with it.

[Lily]

Alright, I’m going to share some valuable relationship knowledge for you twats, and then I’ll come back and address some of your retarded, clueless commentary when I have time.

Most of you are going to turn your nose up at my advice, because what I’m suggesting is not going to be an element that is present in most of your relationships. But there is value in my words, whether you choose to listen or not. So, here it is, in a nutshell.....

SET THE STAGE TO HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER!

Everybody loves to blather on about trust and respecting each other’s privacy and all that garbage. Privacy is not something you should aspire to in a committed relationship. It is something you should seek to eliminate.

If your wife wants privacy, she can close the bathroom door when she takes a shit. But there should be zero privacy when it comes to whereabouts, and especially there should be no expectation of privacy with respect to online activities and use of technology. None.

Their cell phone is where shit is going to start most of the time. If you and your chick don’t know each other’s pass codes and have the okay to use each other’s electronic devices whenever you please, then you’re fucking up.

Think about it this way.....before the widespread use of cell phones, if your girlfriend came over to your house and needed to use your home phone, would you tell her to fuck off? No, you’d let her use the goddamn phone. If you had a desktop computer and she needed to use it, would you tell her to fuck off? No, you’d let her use it. But all of a sudden, those same technologies can fit in your pocket and now we act like it’s supposed to be this big, private thing. Fuck that. Not in a committed relationship. There should be no secrets and neither of you should have a fucking thing to hide.

Do you have a pass code on your microwave? Does she have to enter a six digit code before she can flush your toilet? Fuck no, because there’s nothing to hide there. Literally, the only reason to lock your phone away from your partner is that you have something to hide. It is cancer to a relationship.

I know what you’re thinking.....”But, but.....what about TRUST????!!!” Nope....try again. I’ll give another analogy. I used to fly single engine airplanes as a hobby. I trusted the airworthiness of the airplane I was in. I believed the engine was going to perform perfectly every single time. I trusted it. In fact, I trusted it with my life, or I wouldn’t have been in the plane in the first place. But does that mean I didn’t look at the oil pressure gauge repeatedly during each flight? Hell no. Because that would make me an idiot. Trust, but verify. That is the correct way. There is nothing noble about blind trust. It doesn’t make you a better person. It doesn’t give you the moral high ground. It only makes you a pilot who doesn’t look at the oil pressure gauge.

If someone is a casual fling, I have no expectations in this regard and I give nothing in return. But if I’m in a committed relationship, we’re going to have openness, and I will not ask anything from a woman that I won’t give in return. My girlfriend and I know each other’s pass codes to our devices, we permanently share our locations on our phones, etc. There is no expectation of privacy, and that’s how it should be.

Now, does that mean you’re never going to get cheated on? No, not necessarily. If someone wants to cheat, they can be sneaky and find a way. But that doesn’t mean you should make it easy for each other. You should put barriers up to prevent it. You should make it difficult.

Here’s the thing, a lot of the cheating that happens could be avoided if your partner just knew you were paying attention or knew that there was risk of getting caught.

A lot of cheating doesn’t happen with one Big Bang. It’s a slow burn. It starts with someone liking their Facebook posts regularly. Then there’s a seemingly innocent instant message. Then there’s light conversation and a building of friendship. Then they begin confiding in each other regarding personal matters. Before long, they’re fucking and it “just happened.”

A lot of that shit could be eliminated at the very first or second step of the process if there was some visibility into your partner’s activities. Maybe with some openness, your partner receives that first instant message, realizes that it is a potential problem causer in your relationship, mentions it to you right away, blocks the person and it’s never an issue beyond that.

Don’t make it easy for your partner to ease into a familiar relationship with another person as they rationalize it as being innocent along the way. Establish boundaries. Establish rules. Have expectations for proper behavior. Talk about them. Agree on it. Then enforce those boundaries with an iron fist.

Ignore my advice at your own peril. Trust, but verify.

Devil’s girlfriend is posting again. Red alert!

[Dr. Gonzo]

Interesting and thought provoking commentary as always, Devil.

[W. Rabbit]

Alright, I’m going to share some valuable relationship knowledge for you twats, and then I’ll come back and address some of your retarded, clueless commentary when I have time.

Most of you are going to turn your nose up at my advice, because what I’m suggesting is not going to be an element that is present in most of your relationships. But there is value in my words, whether you choose to listen or not. So, here it is, in a nutshell.....

SET THE STAGE TO HAVE NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER!

Everybody loves to blather on about trust and respecting each other’s privacy and all that garbage. Privacy is not something you should aspire to in a committed relationship. It is something you should seek to eliminate.

If your wife wants privacy, she can close the bathroom door when she takes a shit. But there should be zero privacy when it comes to whereabouts, and especially there should be no expectation of privacy with respect to online activities and use of technology. None.

Their cell phone is where shit is going to start most of the time. If you and your chick don’t know each other’s pass codes and have the okay to use each other’s electronic devices whenever you please, then you’re fucking up.

Think about it this way.....before the widespread use of cell phones, if your girlfriend came over to your house and needed to use your home phone, would you tell her to fuck off? No, you’d let her use the goddamn phone. If you had a desktop computer and she needed to use it, would you tell her to fuck off? No, you’d let her use it. But all of a sudden, those same technologies can fit in your pocket and now we act like it’s supposed to be this big, private thing. Fuck that. Not in a committed relationship. There should be no secrets and neither of you should have a fucking thing to hide.

Do you have a pass code on your microwave? Does she have to enter a six digit code before she can flush your toilet? Fuck no, because there’s nothing to hide there. Literally, the only reason to lock your phone away from your partner is that you have something to hide. It is cancer to a relationship.

I know what you’re thinking.....”But, but.....what about TRUST????!!!” Nope....try again. I’ll give another analogy. I used to fly single engine airplanes as a hobby. I trusted the airworthiness of the airplane I was in. I believed the engine was going to perform perfectly every single time. I trusted it. In fact, I trusted it with my life, or I wouldn’t have been in the plane in the first place. But does that mean I didn’t look at the oil pressure gauge repeatedly during each flight? Hell no. Because that would make me an idiot. Trust, but verify. That is the correct way. There is nothing noble about blind trust. It doesn’t make you a better person. It doesn’t give you the moral high ground. It only makes you a pilot who doesn’t look at the oil pressure gauge.

If someone is a casual fling, I have no expectations in this regard and I give nothing in return. But if I’m in a committed relationship, we’re going to have openness, and I will not ask anything from a woman that I won’t give in return. My girlfriend and I know each other’s pass codes to our devices, we permanently share our locations on our phones, etc. There is no expectation of privacy, and that’s how it should be.

Now, does that mean you’re never going to get cheated on? No, not necessarily. If someone wants to cheat, they can be sneaky and find a way. But that doesn’t mean you should make it easy for each other. You should put barriers up to prevent it. You should make it difficult.

Here’s the thing, a lot of the cheating that happens could be avoided if your partner just knew you were paying attention or knew that there was risk of getting caught.

A lot of cheating doesn’t happen with one Big Bang. It’s a slow burn. It starts with someone liking their Facebook posts regularly. Then there’s a seemingly innocent instant message. Then there’s light conversation and a building of friendship. Then they begin confiding in each other regarding personal matters. Before long, they’re fucking and it “just happened.”

A lot of that shit could be eliminated at the very first or second step of the process if there was some visibility into your partner’s activities. Maybe with some openness, your partner receives that first instant message, realizes that it is a potential problem causer in your relationship, mentions it to you right away, blocks the person and it’s never an issue beyond that.

Don’t make it easy for your partner to ease into a familiar relationship with another person as they rationalize it as being innocent along the way. Establish boundaries. Establish rules. Have expectations for proper behavior. Talk about them. Agree on it. Then enforce those boundaries with an iron fist.

Ignore my advice at your own peril. Trust, but verify.

No.

Zero trust for starters.

Then you build trust, over time, as you have been.

Careful though, it can be blown at any time.