Selection pressure throughout history

[lant3rn]

They seem to suffer from the same problems that I keep cropping up on social media, and that is it seems to me people think that society owes them something and should take care of all their problems for them.

Its not my fault I am fat society should deal with it by forcing restaurants to serve healthy meals
Its not my fault I have 100000000000 in student debt society should pay that off for me
Its not my fault I make $.50 an hour
ect
ect
ect

I am not sure what the heck happened to them generations post Gen X but their is a real entitlement streak (of course this is grossly over generalized) it sure as fuck makes being a progressive liberal hard when I have people complaining about this:
The 700,000 recipients of SNAP but them not wanting to recognize that those losing their benefits are:
Those affected by the proposed changes to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits are known as able-bodied adults without dependents,
and
stop food stamps after three months for ABAWDs who don’t work, volunteer or get job training for at least 20 hours a week.
Sorry but if your Able-bodied and an Adult without dependents you sure as heck should be able to find 20 hours a weeks worth of work.

Just saying......

Well entitlements aside, as an older millennial, I can say that I have found hard work to be it’s own reward.

[goodlun]

The funny thing is I am not here to shit on millennials, I don't think that they are lazy over all, but they seem to be missing the part of the formula where they don't get, working hard by itself isn't enough, and the odd expectation of rewards outside of what was promised for showing up, just because they showed up.
So to bring it back around.
They could go on a "date" do all the date hardwork, figure out a good place to go, actively participate in conversation, pay for everything, all that stuff people see as good courting behavior.
Then be flabbergasted that they didn't end up in their dates pants or get a 2nd date, cause they did all the right things.

[AprilRains]

Well, this thread took a turn.

That was a moderately timely call.

[Tranquil Suit]

finish the limerick, damn you

Go right ahead.

[lant3rn]

The funny thing is I am not here to shit on millennials, I don't think that they are lazy over all, but they seem to be missing the part of the formula where they don't get, working hard by itself isn't enough, and the odd expectation of rewards outside of what was promised for showing up, just because they showed up.
So to bring it back around.
They could go on a "date" do all the date hardwork, figure out a good place to go, actively participate in conversation, pay for everything, all that stuff people see as good courting behavior.
Then be flabbergasted that they didn't end up in their dates pants or get a 2nd date, cause they did all the right things.

Que?

Working smart is good

but as for dating... if your paying for everything your doing it wrong.

If you picked a good place and you both have a good time... you’ll get a second date. If you don’t... try again...

If someone is saying they are doing all the above correctly and not getting second date; they’re lying. Either to you or themselves.

[goodlun]

Que?

Working smart is good

Sure the key thing though is hard work isn't the same thing as results or accomplishing things, you can put out a ton of effort and just spin your wheels.
You can work hard, and fuck everything up.

but as for dating... if your paying for everything your doing it wrong.

If you picked a good place and you both have a good time... you’ll get a second date. If you don’t... try again...

If someone is saying they are doing all the above correctly and not getting second date; they’re lying. Either to you or themselves.

You can have a good date, both people can have fun but at the end of the night still have no chemistry

[lant3rn]

Sure the key thing though is hard work isn't the same thing as results or accomplishing things, you can put out a ton of effort and just spin your wheels.
You can work hard, and fuck everything up.



You can have a good date, both people can have fun but at the end of the night still have no chemistry

That’s not a good a date, how do you have a good time with someone you have no chemistry with?

[goodlun]

That’s not a good a date, how do you have a good time with someone you have chemistry with?

Well never claimed it was a "good date" I said people can do all the good courting behavior, have and then I said its possible to have fun without having "chemistry".
I mean do you not have any friends of the opposite sex that are just that friends? People you can go out with and have a good time but still not want to fuck?
Yeah that is how.

[lant3rn]

Well never claimed it was a "good date" I said people can do all the good courting behavior, have and then I said its possible to have fun without having "chemistry".
I mean do you not have any friends of the opposite sex that are just that friends? People you can go out with and have a good time but still not want to fuck?
Yeah that is how.

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I do, but we have common interests, share laughs, and enjoy each other’s company.

If those things happen On a first date It has Always led to a second date

I can tell within the first minutes on a date if their into me..

There is nothing good about there date behaviours if they’re not getting results; that’s being in denial. You can’t keep doing the same things and expect different results.

[goodlun]

I do, but we have common interests, share laughs, and enjoy each other’s company.

There is nothing good about there date behaviours if they’re not getting results; that’s being in denial. You can’t keep doing the same things and expect different results.

Bingo, hence what I have been talking about.

Don't look at me, I don't exactly go out on dates been married for ~14ish years. Though I kind of recently(well maybe about a year ago if I think about it, was on a "date" with a scientist that wanted to hang out when we pulled back into port I just didn't know it was a "date" till she leaned in to kiss me at the end of the night lol.

[lant3rn]

Bingo, hence what I have been talking about.

Don't look at me, I don't exactly go out on dates been married for ~14ish years. Though I kind of recently(well maybe about a year ago if I think about it, was on a "date" with a scientist that wanted to hang out when we pulled back into port I just didn't know it was a "date" till she leaned in to kiss me at the end of the night lol.

You salty dog

[goodlun]

You salty dog

Nah, its easy for people to get confused by having a good old jovial time in high pressure situations as being something more.
Combine some of that high pressure times with that sort of pressure release in a slightly romanticized setting and its easy for a young lady to think something else is going on.
Especially once you hit port and that high pressure situation is completely over.
We run into all sorts of problems though between young crew and young college kids not being able to read whats really going on or what peoples real intentions are.
I would say largely we never have any sort of predatory behavior but missed interrupted ques all over the place.
Cause its a setting where emotions run much hotter and you work much closer with people than normal.
So its very easy for someone to think someone is flirting with them when one isn't and that can lead to some "Civility at sea" issues.
People being accused of stepping over boundaries they haven't or other expectations being set and followed up on.
For fun here is the Latest Civility at Sea video put out
https://youtu.be/6e7mGGoXRGU

[jnp]

[BKR]

People are often aghast to surprised that my Ex and I still get a long so well.

I really liked her boyfriend, too. Good man, too bad it did not work out for them.

[lant3rn]

I can conceive of you being good friends with your ex.

Did you not get a second date from the ones you had a connection with? Even if you ended up not having a romantic interest in each other.