The Top 5 Combat Systems

[hungryjoe]

Aikido is actually more dangerous to yourself than not doing Aikido.

There are quite a number of older people out there who took up aikido in later years. After practicing other arts in earlier years. Aikido in itself sucks as a primary martial art. It can however be another tool in the tool box.

[Heuristic]

There are quite a number of older people out there who took up aikido in later years. After practicing other arts in earlier years. Aikido in itself sucks as a primary martial art. It can however be another tool in the tool box.

No it cannot. You cannot wrist lock a regular sized and strength resisting opponent with just your hand, it's all bullshit.

[Sovvolf]

There are quite a number of older people out there who took up aikido in later years. After practicing other arts in earlier years. Aikido in itself sucks as a primary martial art. It can however be another tool in the tool box.

So long as there's a sound base that has working fundamental there's never much an harm in trying to get creative with unorthodox stuff. I was sparring last Wednesday and started to do some wing Chun style chain punches and it kinda worked in getting through my sparring partners guard and got him distracted enough to set up a good body kick and takedown. Not something I'd do all the time but practiced in a controlled environment it worked out alright.

[Sovvolf]

Heuristic... What authority or knowledge do you have about ground fighting? You look like a skinny incel living in his mum's basement and have shown absolutely nothing to convince any one here you can fight. I'll ask the question I asked you years ago. Where's you're sparring footage?

[Dr. Gonzo]

No it cannot. You cannot wrist lock a regular sized and strength resisting opponent with just your hand, it's all bullshit.

Saying that Aikido people (or any trained person applying a proper wristlock) wristlock people just using their hand

is just as false as saying a proper punch is thrown with just the hand / arm.

Again, you are silly, or you are ignorant and silly.

[Heuristic]

The Aikido forum is littered with guys upset that it didn't work when they had to use it. It's hilarious to scroll through. What the fuck did they expect? Their training is 100% choreographed.

[Heuristic]

Saying that Aikido people (or any trained person applying a proper wristlock) wristlock people just using their hand

is just as false as saying a proper punch is thrown with just the hand / arm.

Again, you are silly, or you are ignorant and silly.

They do not use utilize their entire body like a wrestler or jiujitsu player to be even remotely close at making it work, rendering it completely impossible unless you have robot arms. You are not going to be granted any wrists anyway by anyone with half a brain. it's a party trick.

[Dr. Gonzo]

The Aikido forum is littered with guys upset that it didn't work when they had to use it. It's hilarious to scroll through. What the fuck did they expect? Their training is 100% choreographed.

That is not the same as the point you made earlier, and that earlier point demonstrates your ignorance (or deliberate feigned ignorance).

[Dr. Gonzo]

They do not use utilize their entire body like a wrestler or jiujitsu player to be even remotely close at making it work, rendering it completely impossible unless you have robot arms. You are not going to be granted any wrists anyway by anyone with half a brain. it's a party trick.

The reason Aikido fails is not because of how they do wristlocks,

it is because they do not have the proper trained responses to handle more common offensives,

and because Aikido does not on its own train the offenses appropriate for other scenarios which are very common other than wristlock scenarios.

But you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to wristlocks or small joint manipulations.

[lant3rn]

No, that's my point. At the end of the day, any art that kicks and punches is more than enough. How it's trained is up to you and your partner. I have had more than enough full contact sparring and will try to tone it down from here on. Don't need it. Jones uses spinning back kicks, side kicks, back fists, head kicks more than his wrestling. I don't remember the last time I saw him grappling for any length of time. So if you told him right now that he can't wrestle anymore, it wouldn't have mattered. Nobody even dares grab his leg anyway.

[hungryjoe]

They do not use utilize their entire body like a wrestler or jiujitsu player to be even remotely close at making it work, rendering it completely impossible unless you have robot arms. You are not going to be granted any wrists anyway by anyone with half a brain. it's a party trick.

You're ignorant.

I wrestled and have a black belt in aikido too. So well aware of the limitations of both.

You have a red belt. In TKD.

[Heuristic]

and have a black belt in aikido too. .

I wouldn't say that out loud.

[Heuristic]

Oh and we have those silly joint manipulations in TKD as well. It does not work and nobody in the club believes it works either. And I challenged an instructor to prove it (on me), and he failed.

[hungryjoe]

I wouldn't say that out loud.

Why? We called ourselves the Geritol Group. Probably at least half of us had many years in other arts.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Oh and we have those silly joint manipulations in TKD as well. It does not work and nobody in the club believes it works either. And I challenged an instructor to prove it (on me), and he failed.

I have no doubt that what you know does not work in general, including joint manipulations.