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[NeilG]

[BKR]

Phelps admitted that 12k was an exaggeration (article I linked earlier I believe covers it); still, I would buy 8k+ for him and others like him.

So 8000 makes his average even lower.

[submessenger]

Michael Phelps ate 12,000 Kcal/day...
https://www.businessinsider.com/mich...lympics-2016-8

So, max avg would be 8.33Kcal/minute.

Would need to subtract basal rate, that would lower that.

High volume work...

Phelps admitted that 12k was an exaggeration (article I linked earlier I believe covers it); still, I would buy 8k+ for him and others like him.

[BKR]

No, you must be confused.

I believe it is unattainable, based on the fact that burning 100 kcal in 1 minute doesn't seem humanly possible.

Did you plug the same numbers in I did? In order to burn that much energy in 60s, you need to be far more massive than a Sumo wrestler, and you still wouldn't come close to that, even during an intense anaerobic sprint.

I'd like to note that Tim's table consists of mostly ratios, except for two places, and I believe if you take another look you'll see the problem. Namely, Tim fudged his numbers in two places. It's clear as crystal. He'd probably even admit it if tasked.

Michael Phelps ate 12,000 Kcal/day...
https://www.businessinsider.com/mich...lympics-2016-8

So, max avg would be 8.33Kcal/minute.

Would need to subtract basal rate, that would lower that.

High volume work...

[BKR]

Thanks, I think you're illustrating my point.

The numbers you have to plug in to get anywhere near 100 kcal/60s is just not realistic unless you're a moderately sized predatory dinosaur.

Well, I sure was not arguing...

Nobody is burning 100 Calories/minute. I doubt it is physiologically possible.

Maybe as an instantaneous rate for a few seconds?

Needs more googling...

[W. Rabbit]

100kcal/minute is not unattainable, by your own admission.

No, you must be confused.

I believe it is unattainable, based on the fact that burning 100 kcal in 1 minute doesn't seem humanly possible.

Did you plug the same numbers in I did? In order to burn that much energy in 60s, you need to be far more massive than a Sumo wrestler, and you still wouldn't come close to that, even during an intense anaerobic sprint.

I'd like to note that Tim's table consists of mostly ratios, except for two places, and I believe if you take another look you'll see the problem. Namely, Tim fudged his numbers in two places. It's clear as crystal. He'd probably even admit it if tasked.

[submessenger]

Thanks, I think you're illustrating my point.

The numbers you have to plug in to get anywhere near 100 kcal/60s is just not realistic unless you're a moderately sized predatory dinosaur.

You're off on another "I have to be right on the Internet," rant.

100kcal/minute is not unattainable, by your own admission. You're just trying to math your way into it being a fallacy, based on lower levels of activity. And, you're trying to troll me (and Tim, and whoever else that actually knows better).

The level of physical activity involved in actual competition far exceeds any hard training. It pains me to say it, because you *should* know better, what with getting kicked of the platform or whatever that shitfest was. Or, maybe you were just sandbagging, or too scared to engage?

[goodlun]

Do you think Jiujitsu practitioners have good takedowns?

The question isn't if they have good take downs, its if they have sufficient take downs for what ever your goals are.
Are they sufficient to take the fight to the ground with someone that doesn't grapple? Largely yes.
Are they sufficient to knock most wrestlers off their feet...... really going to depend on what you train, Gordon Ryan hit Kani basami on Bo Nickal twice.
But not to any great effect.... more to the point where he decided it was worth getting suplexed to get it to the ground.....
However that is all the extreme end.
I have never ever seen someone on world star hip hop hit a great sprawl on anyone that knew even the littlest bit of grappling shit even seen a many terrible double leg work and I mean a shit double leg the bend over at the waist one
Not a change levels, maintain posture and shoot one. I have never seen anyone ever sprawl in a street fight/bar fight/world star hip hop fight ever successfully sprawl on a proper shoot.
Nor have I ever seen anyone in an amature fight that doesn't train grappling properly sprawl on a proper shoot.
I have seen plenty of BJJ guys that can do a proper shot

[W. Rabbit]

So,

https://www.hss.edu/conditions_burni...xpenditure.asp

I am on my phone, so do some calls. Yourselves.

Ex. 150 lb woman running 8 mph (7.5 min/mile) burns 16 Calories/minute.

Thanks, I think you're illustrating my point.

The numbers you have to plug in to get anywhere near 100 kcal/60s is just not realistic unless you're a moderately sized predatory dinosaur.

[W. Rabbit]

Do you think Jiujitsu practitioners have good takedowns?

Of course many do. It's a matter of who instructs. I did plenty of good standup in BJJ, and by good I mean judo quality.

If you shop right, you can easily find a jits instructor who had done both and values both types of waza.

And it's an obvious false dichotomy to suggest that it's one or the other.

[BKR]

So,

https://www.hss.edu/conditions_burni...xpenditure.asp

I am on my phone, so do some calls. Yourselves.

Ex. 150 lb woman running 8 mph (7.5 min/mile) burns 16 Calories/minute.

[Mr. Machette]

100 a minute sounds extremely optimistic. To the point of being an unhealthy metabolic rate. Like overdosing on heroic amounts of cocaine unhealthy.

Now don't get me wrong. There are ways to BURN it quick.
Sex burns 130cal / 30 minutes
Shivering hard burns 100cal / 10 minutes.
A decent leg session will burn 500-800cal over the course of a workout.

So I think the solution to this 100/minute thing is getting high on speedballs then deadlifting / rough sexing a resisting opponent in a meat locker.

[BKR]

Do you think Jiujitsu practitioners have good takedowns?

Define good, please.

[Heuristic]

I watched Son 1 sprawl incorrectly and get taken down last weekend. He ended up winning the match. His coach corrected him right afterwards.

Do you think Jiujitsu practitioners have good takedowns?

[BKR]

Has he ever said precisely where he got these amazing sprawl skills. I mean there are double legs and there are double legs.

Likewise a lot of people tend to think of sprawls as simple up-downs as opposed to highly technical techniques.

I watched Son 1 sprawl incorrectly and get taken down last weekend. He ended up winning the match. His coach corrected him right afterwards.