The Top 5 Combat Systems

[Heuristic]

1. Catch Wrestling. CW can be described as a more violent and explosive version of Brazilian Jiujitsu. The wrestling is also good, compensating the non existent guard

2. MMA. A bit of a a jack of all trades but the takedown defense couple with wrestling, jiujitsu, and shoot fighting type striking makes it a very complete package. A pain in the ass for any specialist with the right practitioner.

3. Brazilian Jiujitsu. Arguably the best defensive submission art which always comes in handy. It's a bit too specialized to be higher than 3 on my list even though the full curriculum covers a lot of ground.

4. Olympic and Collegiate Wrestling. Very explosive and powerful system with deadly slams and a G&P available to go with that. The lack of submissions and bad habits against submission systems make it no higher than 4 on my list.

5. Muay Thai. Thai clinch is almost an art onto itself. Dangerous flying knees. Devastating low kicks. Also takedowns, leg grabs.


So that's my top 5 list for you.

[Tranquil Suit]

1.Poekoelan
2.Eskrima
3.Ninjitsu
4.Iaido
5.Sambo

[Heuristic]

1.Poekoelan
2.Eskrima
3.Ninjitsu
4.Iaido
5.Sambo

Let's stick to my list for now.

[Tranquil Suit]

Let's stick to my list for now.

No, fuck you. Mine is better.

[AprilRains]

1.Poekoelan
2.Eskrima
3.Ninjitsu
4.Iaido
5.Sambo

5 should be Systema, surely

[Heuristic]

5 should be Systema, surely

liked my list?

[AprilRains]

liked my list?

I was addressing Tranquil Suit's list. No other list in this thread carries weight.

[hungryjoe]

1. Catch Wrestling. CW can be described as a more violent and explosive version of Brazilian Jiujitsu. The wrestling is also good, compensating the non existent guard

2. MMA. A bit of a a jack of all trades but the takedown defense couple with wrestling, jiujitsu, and shoot fighting type striking makes it a very complete package. A pain in the ass for any specialist with the right practitioner.

3. Brazilian Jiujitsu. Arguably the best defensive submission art which always comes in handy. It's a bit too specialized to be higher than 3 on my list even though the full curriculum covers a lot of ground.

4. Olympic and Collegiate Wrestling. Very explosive and powerful system with deadly slams and a G&P available to go with that. The lack of submissions and bad habits against submission systems make it no higher than 4 on my list.

5. Muay Thai. Thai clinch is almost an art onto itself. Dangerous flying knees. Devastating low kicks. Also takedowns, leg grabs.


So that's my top 5 list for you.

#4 show's you've never wrestled. Any decent wrestler knows a great many submissions that cannot be employed in the ruleset.

About that bag?

edit to add

Wrestlers were the reason judo changed the rules on leg attacks around a decade ago.

[Heuristic]

#4 show's you've never wrestled. Any decent wrestler knows a great many submissions that cannot be employed in the ruleset.

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They know a guillotine for sure but their system of grappling (especially in the mount) has actually worse habits than a beginners with no previous knowledge.

[Heuristic]

And I wrote the lack of submissions. I am making a list about systems, not people. Step up your game

[hungryjoe]

They know a guillotine for sure but their system of grappling (especially in the mount) has actually worse habits than a beginners with no previous knowledge.

You've never wrestled.

[hungryjoe]

And I wrote the lack of submissions. I am making a list about systems, not people. Step up your game

Yet you added ground and pound. At least I have a game.

[Heuristic]

Yet you added ground and pound. At least I have a game.

Perhaps I should express myself more clearly then. It's possible to add freewheeling G&P which makes it more old school MMA esque, but there are pros and cons to such an approach.

[Heuristic]

I will also add that on a very good or bad day, 1-3 can switch places with each other. We are dealing with individuals after all all and the overlap between them is significant. 4 and 5 are generally more static in where they belong in the hierarchy IMO.

[AprilRains]

To hell with that bag. Hang yourself.