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    "I'm reluctant to sound like a total fa66ot as well, but my background in sculpture gave me an edge in understanding how we're expected to move thru space." - The Other Other Serge

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    Implement China's social credit system over the course of a decade. That's all it would take.

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        #4
        Keep the rabble entertained with bread and circuses.

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          #5
          Politicz r da best. Get high all the time.
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            #6
            Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
            Implement China's social credit system over the course of a decade. That's all it would take.
            You mean like this?

            "Your credit score isn't a reflection of your moral character - but the Department of Homeland Security seems to think it is."
            https://slate.com/technology/2018/11...ssessment.html

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              #7
              Speaking as a non-American who is never been on the USA, I do not think that it is true that "Americans distrust of government and related institutions", in fact it seems to me - from the stuff that I read on internet and for example in this blog - that they trust their government much more than an Italian would trust the Italian government, but somehow they have a self-image of people who don't trust the government.

              I'll use the example of the right of carrying weapons.
              As an Italian I'm used to the idea that people do not have a particular right to carry weapons around, however many Americans (and certainly almost everyone here, although this is probably because this is a weapons/martial arts site) certainly think that carrying weapons is a right, and that it is important, in part also to protect yourself from the government.

              This would seem like an example of Americans don't trusting the government. Excluded that it isn't:

              If I think of an example of a government you should defend from, you can use the example of Italian fascism (or also the USSR or others, but I'll use fascism in this example).
              In the case of Italian fascism, a small number of people (that incresed towards the end of the war), known as "partigiani", actually hid somewhere in the wilderness, generally in the mountains, and attacked the army and the fascist government with weapons and with what we would today call "terror attacks" (though they generally didn't target civilian population).
              This is what using weapons against the government means, and the partisans only won in the end because the Allies defeated fascism, not on their own strenght.

              But if you put things this way, it's evident that nobody in today's America who says that he needs weapons to defend his/her freedom does think in these terms: first of all it's obvious that just owning a gun isn't particularly useful, then we are speaking of terrorism-like activities, and most importantly if you are actually thinking than you might need to shoot "the government", this usually means shooting soldiers or policemen, so you don't want a really armed and aggressive police, something that however Americans don't seem to mind that much.

              So my opinion is that, when Americans say that they need their weapons to keep their freedom from the government, well they really think it's true, but they aren't really taking the idea of fighting against the government seriously (otherwise they would act in a different way), it's more a sort of self image.

              There are also other situations that come to my mind where, if Americans really didn't trust their government, they would act very differently: e.g. death penalty; but I really became convinced of this reading arguments against gun control in this blog.

              So going back to the original questions of the OP:

              1) Whomever as long as I can control A) the army B) the media;
              2) The American people already don't have the ability to rise and topple me, at least as long as I control the army and I'm ready to spill a lot of blood.

              Seriously, under a MisterMr government, when I change the laws and say that everyone has to wear a tuxedo and praise me once a week, how many people are going to plan to shoot me? How many people are going to shoot the policemen that arrest the guys who don't wear a tuxedo? They're going against the law after all, so it's normal that they are arrested.
              Last edited by MisterMR; 11/24/2018 5:03pm, .

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                #8
                This is easy - I'm surprised Monkey didn't grab it:

                I would choose to be a mass media mogul, and use my might to create megawars with disinformation.
                Consider for a moment that there is no meme about brown-haired, brown-eyed step children.

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                  #9
                  The more we get rid of our ability to provide for ourselves, the less likely we'll be able to survive without the government. We're always getting more sedentary and compliant and obese and we outsource our means to provide for ourselves whenever possible. I believe the ability to grow and hunt and cultivate and survive is more important than stockpiling guns etc that is often associated with anti-government rhetoric. So few of us know how to go about stabilizing milk into cheese, for example. So, if I were part of a shadowy government institution committed to eroding American ability to topple the government, I'd probably have a pretty laizze faire approach. Going out and actually doing something to de-revolutionize Americans is probably not necessary and trying something might just give people a reason to distrust and resist the government. I'd let the slow creep of dependence continue, maybe encourage it by finding more ways to outsource the basics by importing more cheap throwaway solutions to things we used to do ourselves.

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                      #11
                      As a side note, my good friend and I already know which armory we’re attacking in the event of the zombie apocalypse. If shit pops off, we’re going straight there and getting stocked up like The Terminator.

                      If fighting happens, I’m going to be fighting with belt fed machine guns and armored vehicles.

                      In fact, I have a plan in the back of my head to organize and arm my neighborhood and quickly spread our sphere of influence outward, providing strength and stability. When governments collapse, tribal warfare happens, and if that happens, you want to have the most organized and well equipped tribe. You need to be prepared to BE the police when there is none.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Scut Farkus View Post
                        As a side note, my good friend and I already know which armory we’re attacking in the event of the zombie apocalypse. If shit pops off, we’re going straight there and getting stocked up like The Terminator.

                        If fighting happens, I’m going to be fighting with belt fed machine guns and armored vehicles.

                        In fact, I have a plan in the back of my head to organize and arm my neighborhood and quickly spread our sphere of influence outward, providing strength and stability. When governments collapse, tribal warfare happens, and if that happens, you want to have the most organized and well equipped tribe. You need to be prepared to BE the police when there is none.
                        Some select friends and my family have our eyes on a Super Wal-Mart that we will take over for a while.
                        Combatives training log.

                        Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

                        Drum thread

                        Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.

                        "Disliking someone is not evidence of wrongdoing or malfeasance or even bias." --Dung Beatles

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Diesel_Claus View Post
                          Some select friends and my family have our eyes on a Super Wal-Mart that we will take over for a while.
                          Great call. Some guns (depending on your location), plenty of ammo, and provisions out the ass, plus enough shelter for a small town's worth of survivors. Should be a waystation in any prepper's planning.
                          Consider for a moment that there is no meme about brown-haired, brown-eyed step children.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nutcracker, sweet View Post
                            Great call. Some guns (depending on your location), plenty of ammo, and provisions out the ass, plus enough shelter for a small town's worth of survivors. Should be a waystation in any prepper's planning.
                            Yep, that was my thinking. So I've got enough friends and family in on it that we can cover all of the exits in shifts and defend from invasion. I would think the piles of bodies around it will eventually deter people until the resources are depleted and we have to move to our secondary location, which I also have figured out.
                            Combatives training log.

                            Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

                            Drum thread

                            Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.

                            "Disliking someone is not evidence of wrongdoing or malfeasance or even bias." --Dung Beatles

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                              #15
                              Last five posts aren’t answering the question. You guys are leaping straight into ‘how do defend’ before you can tell me how such a situation would arise.
                              "I'm reluctant to sound like a total fa66ot as well, but my background in sculpture gave me an edge in understanding how we're expected to move thru space." - The Other Other Serge

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