Wun Yuen Yut Hei Jeung = fraud?

[urfausto]

But was she hot?

no because i would have already invited her out! she was just fancy and good-looking selfies, then i saw a real picture and was terrible lol

[BJMills]

Whats this kabbalah style?

All i could find was jewish referanced stuff and eventually this...

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....s-warrior/amp/

Looks legit.

[Kravbizarre]

Whats this kabbalah style?

All i could find was jewish referanced stuff and eventually this...

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....s-warrior/amp/

[BJMills]

i stumbled upon a girl over facebook which was kickboxing+kaballah. she was really dumb...

But was she hot?

[urfausto]

i stumbled upon a girl over facebook which was kickboxing+kaballah. she was really dumb...

[BJMills]

Really?! dunno...cannot imagine girls being attracted by sentences like "Hey, wanna talk about tzimtzum?"

[Raycetpfl]

Really?! dunno...cannot imagine girls being attracted by sentences like "Hey, wanna talk about tzimtzum?"

The line ," Do you wanna go wrestle in Pajamas? " ,worked on my wife.

[Falenay]

If you want to waste your time on stupid bullshit forget about the king fu and do Kabbalah. For some reason it seems to attract hot girls. So at least there’s a tangible benefit.

Really?! dunno...cannot imagine girls being attracted by sentences like "Hey, wanna talk about tzimtzum?"

[BJMills]

If you want to waste your time on stupid bullshit forget about the king fu and do Kabbalah. For some reason it seems to attract hot girls. So at least there’s a tangible benefit.

[urfausto]

the only webpage describing the entire lineage (still differs from other pages):
*waterspirit6x8.tripod.com/id32.html

Hun Yuan unified one-chi--Palm 混元一炁掌
Lineage :
<0>a self-styled Hong Kong 'taoist priest' named Ho Tim, He Tan 何譚
or He Yu-tan 何于譚 [also 何道長 He Tao-chang, He dao-zhang ]
whose teachers are unknown, ...[he only knew of a 'water-style' boxing from Shanghai] taught:
<1>LHBF teacher Lu Zhi-yuan [ Lo Chi-wan ] 盧志雲 [ 卢志云 ] 1964-66
<1>LHBF teacher Li Chung [John] 李忠
<1> David Chan, Chan Chung-lam
<2> JR Rodriquiez IV
<1> LHBF teacher Connie Coleho 高玉華 Gao Yu-hua [Koh Yoke Wah]
<2> Gary Koh, 高 洪柱 Gao Hong-zhu


it is already utterly messed up by itself but the sources are unverifiable.
and what the hell does Hun Yuan Yi Chi Chuang even means... it is stolen from a qigong position (*youtube.com/watch?v=9OnSGEdkUj8)

[urfausto]

a post about the art by Garry Hearfield from a daoism forum:
*thedaobums.com/topic/7371-who-here-meditates-at-least-1-hour-every-day/?do=findComment&comment=123331

"Vortex,

Thanks, I teach many rare systems but the one that I have spoken here is Primordial Chaos One Chi Palm " Hun Yuan Yi Qi Zhuang" from WuTai Shan.

I got many realizations and awakenings, lots of out of body mostly traveling in the Universe and just pure stillness when im out NOTHINGNESS, cant even describe it too hard to explain what I felt but its BLISS pure ectsacy.

The system is all based on spiritual animals, gods, universe, earth, heavens, yin yang, 5 elements, different Jings.

Anyway just some information hope that helped answer your question?

Spirit Ape name is in the form and it works on moon Qi kung....

Spirit Ape observes the Moon.

Spirit Ape"




a reply to the upper post about the master Coelho
*thedaobums.com/topic/7371-who-here-meditates-at-least-1-hour-every-day/?do=findComment&comment=123472

"During his younger years, Master Connie was an expert of Choy Li Fut and was unbeatable in his art in Hongkong. He defeated many respectable sparring partners at the time, such as Bruce Lee.
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Master Lo felt that Master Connie was ready to learn his secret internal martial art of Wan Yuen. So, Master Lo patiently passed on the secrets of this art to Master Connie. Master Connie eventually became Master Lo's best Wan Yuen student."

[urfausto]

hahahahaha

ok the shit here is completely unverifiable...

the only other source speaking of this style is unreachable:
*kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?55810-Wun-Cheun-Yut-Hay-Geun

the claimed lineage returns void from the internet research:
Lo Che-Yuen
Ngai Bak Yeung
Chiu Chi

so i don't know where i should look to find more info... it just seems more and more plain fake martial art to me...

[BJMills]

Totally legit. I'm a black belt sash 15th degree in the system.

[battlefields]

Totally legit. I'm a black belt sash 15th degree in the system.

[Kravbizarre]

If this is some rare and mystical asian martial art and the only people who teach it are two white guys then thats red flags to me. Especially if you cant verify its lineage. Beware of people claiming they teach commandos and ‘cool’ people like that. Its generally hard to verify that shit and from a fighting persoective its not impressive. I say this because military personnel dont fight wars unarmed. but if this guy was teaching actual fighters or people who use thier hands for fighting lots you could see how effective the system is, based on what you see from his students (for example he teaches all the bouncers in the roughest clubs in town and they are all badasses with his training).