Cardio beats a RNC

[Gumby]

I'm going to need some of those if they're laying around.

[goodlun]

Silliness aside its nice that there is at least a governing body involved.

[Moenstah]

Yes, I just didn't see JKN being the one to come along on the rational side of things to be honest. I feel kinda bad for making fun of him now. I'm glad he had the ability to see through the BS he was being fed, but honestly of all the people he was the one I would have voted least likely to see reality.

Most people from other systems really don't get the BJJ ranking system, and in my opinion that is OK.

Fixed

I just need to make the right noises for the tests to get through this.

taking tests 101

[Michael Tzadok]

You have now experienced what its like to be a Bjj ambassador. These are the two of the three most common reactions. The other is complete denial of reality. I believe these two are the most sane of the three paths.

I'm pretty sure that GN qualifies as denial of reality.

Yes, I just didn't see JKN being the one to come along on the rational side of things to be honest. I feel kinda bad for making fun of him now. I'm glad he had the ability to see through the BS he was being fed, but honestly of all the people he was the one I would have voted least likely to see reality.

TKD is an international sport. They still move kids along at a quick clip to black belt mostly for self-esteem reasons. People from other systems really don't get the BJJ ranking system, and in my opinion that is OK. I just need to make the right noises for the tests to get through this.

[Mandem]

Rabbinical conversion. Awesome.

Idk if Michael has ever fought in MMA but if he does his nickname should be "the Rabid Rabbi"

[hungryjoe]

Rabbinical conversion. Awesome.

[BJMills]

Thanks Michael. Very interesting turn of events.

Kind of says two things to me:

1) Reasonable people can get sucked into some unreasonable martial arts training.

2) When confronted with reality reasonable people can learn.

Seems simple but I’ve seen countless examples to the contrary, so this was refreshing.

On another note- about the promotion for self esteem nonsense- BJJ is an international sport. If Israeli schools promoted off self esteem vs ability the whole country would be a joke in international competition. How is that even an argument?

[Raycetpfl]

I guess I don't personally find it humorous when a person quits Martial Arts, as I believe there is other value in martial arts other than just fighting skill. I would much rather that he had gone the route of JKN(who I now feel kinda bad about making fun of). Quitting altogether just seems sad.

You have now experienced what its like to be a Bjj ambassador. These are the two of the three most common reactions. The other is complete denial of reality. I believe these two are the most sane of the three paths.

[BKR]

I guess I don't personally find it humorous when a person quits Martial Arts, as I believe there is other value in martial arts other than just fighting skill. I would much rather that he had gone the route of JKN(who I now feel kinda bad about making fun of). Quitting altogether just seems sad.

The Power of Positive Ridicule is a well-known, but not always effective, coaching/teaching method.

It used to work like hell on me, I tried to kill my primary judo coach on more than one occasion. Then I would go and smash MFs in competition because of trying and failing to smash him 5 days a week. More like bouncing off of brick wall, but you get the idea.

[Michael Tzadok]

What do you mean not humorous?
The aftermath of the choke is the best part of the story!

I guess I don't personally find it humorous when a person quits Martial Arts, as I believe there is other value in martial arts other than just fighting skill. I would much rather that he had gone the route of JKN(who I now feel kinda bad about making fun of). Quitting altogether just seems sad.

[BKR]

Alright first break so I can fill in a few things. Sorry if they are not humorous.

DFW called it quits today. Came in to tell GBA that, and to work on the paperwork of officially withdrawing. Apparently getting choked unconscious in 4 seconds flat caused him to rethink all the KM stuff he had been told on choke defense, and then that lead him to rethink everything else he had been taught in KM. So he is officially and permanently out.

Psych instructor then droned on for three straight hours repeating himself and rambling dropping occasional nuggets of wisdom. Not that what he is saying isn't good solid stuff, but with a psych degree, it is all really basic and he isn't having class interaction so nothing funny, and just a lot of me struggling to pay attention.

During the first minutes of the break JKN went over to talk with the psych teacher. He basically wanted confirmation that he is currently training in a psychologically unhealthy environment. Psych teacher totally agreed with him.

He then came over to me. He apparently looked up the Gracies in Action videos and some Andre Galvao vids, and has decided to finish out the course then take up BJJ. Totally sensible in my opinion. I didn't see that one coming.

So, Michael, looks like you have done your at least one good deed during your time in the class.

One Kraver realized the error of his ways (should not have quit, though, but done what JKN says he will do, take up BJJ), and JKN will finish class and take up BJJ.

Good work ! The Power of Positive Strangulation !

[Guird]

What do you mean not humorous?
The aftermath of the choke is the best part of the story!

[Raycetpfl]

Most of the rest of the class was a further yawn. At one point the instructor talked about how to handle anger with your students. Which lead to a class wide argument about what was appropriate to get angry about and whether one should ever get angry with one's students. Nothing there really interesting.

Then the instructor went on about guaranteeing promotion to protect a student's self esteem. I would have kept my mouth shut, but he asked if anyone had a different opinion. Yep I sure do. Most of the class was shocked when I made the case for BJJ belt promotion being about actual fighting ability. They were far more shocked when I said it didn't matter how young a kid was when they started, they weren't getting a black belt before 19 with early 20's being more likely.

JKN and GN got into an argument after class as to whether Ninjutsu is BS. GN is still convinced that Booj is the greatest evar and that JKN has simply succumb to BJJ propaganda. JKN pointed out that GN refused to take part in my RNC lesson, and essentially told GN to take the Gracie challenge with me. Thankfully GN turned down the Gong Sao I had just been volunteered for, and made some noises about having nothing to prove to anyone.

JKN wanted my advice after that about the course. I gave him the unsolicited advice of not doing challenge matches and for sure not volunteering others for them. Then I told him to finish the course. Most BJJ clubs in this country need all the instructors they can get, even if it is just someone to be there for open mats for insurance reasons. That he will be able to add BJJ to his cert in a year(there is a mandatory 1yr wait between style additions) and if he totally throws himself into his BJJ training that is about how long it will take to get his blue belt and be legally qualified.

Soon the dark side will take hold. After a few classes he can be sent back to the ninja School to submit them all and then the transformation will be complete...

[Raycetpfl]

Do we have a "Choked the Krav Out of a Guy" tag here?

I'm going to need some of those if they're laying around.

[ermghoti]

DFW called it quits today. Came in to tell GBA that, and to work on the paperwork of officially withdrawing. Apparently getting choked unconscious in 4 seconds flat caused him to rethink all the KM stuff he had been told on choke defense, and then that lead him to rethink everything else he had been taught in KM. So he is officially and permanently out.

Do we have a "Choked the Krav Out of a Guy" tag here?