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  • Omega Supreme
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    Originally posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
    I trained TKD for 12 years and only wound up as a red belt(they didn't give black belts to kids back then).

    I trained in the American Freestyle Tae Kwan Do Muk Do Kwan Academy directly under Master Roy Wade, who was under Grand Master Charles Graham. Was the training hardcore? Well if you were a teen you were expected to start full contact at green belt(6th Gup) in order to advance, though pre-teens could reach purple belt(5th gup) without full contact. After that it was a combo of TKD and kickboxing... So I would say kinda hard core. I mean, in all honesty, drilling things like stretch kicks and reverse punches still seems like a waste of training time.
    Typical M-W-F class schedule would go Forms on monday, Self-defense(aka 3 step fighting) on Weds and Sparring on Fri(tappy point sparring mostly, though the full contact stuff got a bit rougher) which were open to all belt levels. Tues and Thurs were full contact kick boxing classes with drills and bag work on Tues and more of the same on Thurs with ever other Thurs being full contact kick boxing sparring.

    I could have done worse for an initial striking art to be honest, but I know from experience that straight boxing, kickboxing or MT would have been better.
    Understood but irrelevant (you were 5?) The Mu Do Kwan school here doesn't do any contact, which I found interesting.

    On a side not I consider kids "adults" by the age of 16 for the sake of getting a blackbelt.

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  • Michael Tzadok
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    I trained TKD for 12 years and only wound up as a red belt(they didn't give black belts to kids back then).

    I trained in the American Freestyle Tae Kwan Do Muk Do Kwan Academy directly under Master Roy Wade, who was under Grand Master Charles Graham. Was the training hardcore? Well if you were a teen you were expected to start full contact at green belt(6th Gup) in order to advance, though pre-teens could reach purple belt(5th gup) without full contact. After that it was a combo of TKD and kickboxing... So I would say kinda hard core. I mean, in all honesty, drilling things like stretch kicks and reverse punches still seems like a waste of training time.
    Typical M-W-F class schedule would go Forms on monday, Self-defense(aka 3 step fighting) on Weds and Sparring on Fri(tappy point sparring mostly, though the full contact stuff got a bit rougher) which were open to all belt levels. Tues and Thurs were full contact kick boxing classes with drills and bag work on Tues and more of the same on Thurs with ever other Thurs being full contact kick boxing sparring.

    I could have done worse for an initial striking art to be honest, but I know from experience that straight boxing, kickboxing or MT would have been better.

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  • Omega Supreme
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    Originally posted by hungryjoe View Post
    That's were they hide the hard core TKD?
    Let's make an assumption that this dumbass is no older than 33 years old. 17 years ago at the age of 16 he came to the Chicago to look at TKD yet he's only a red belt?!?!? Yeah, the numbers don't really match do they? In a good school it would take you 4 years to get to a red belt 2nd kup; assuming they follow the general ITF belt rankings. More than likelly he's been doing it for about 2.5 years. Yet somehow the fuckwit is an expert.

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  • hungryjoe
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    Originally posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    Going to Canada.
    That's were they hide the hard core TKD?

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  • Omega Supreme
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    Originally posted by hungryjoe View Post
    Thought of that but dismissed it. Who would be crazy enough to schedule a connection through Chicago?
    Going to Canada.

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  • hungryjoe
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    Originally posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    Getting a connecting flight is not considered visiting.
    Thought of that but dismissed it. Who would be crazy enough to schedule a connection through Chicago?

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  • Omega Supreme
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    Originally posted by Heuristic View Post
    Yeah I have been in Chicago in 99
    Getting a connecting flight is not considered visiting.

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  • hungryjoe
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    Originally posted by Heuristic View Post
    Yeah I have been in Chicago in 99
    Consider this a much belated Welcome to America.

    Now about that place you train hard core TKD?

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  • Heuristic
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    Yeah I have been in Chicago in 99

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  • hungryjoe
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    Originally posted by Heuristic View Post
    My Swedish nation has shitty ITF schools too. No doubt about that. But nothing beats US TKD
    Lol. You're a chicken shit who's ashamed to link your dojang. Ever made it to the US?

    No

    STFU

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  • Omega Supreme
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    Originally posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
    Russian systema flavored TKD. I can't think of a more deluded cluster of stupid. You have any video To back up your claim of having Teeh Real TKD?



    He/she is nothing but a troll. More than likely doesn't even train on any serious level based on the content of the posts. Oh and his IP matches his swedish claim... but we know how easy it is to manipulate that info
    Oh good, I'm not the only one thinking this.

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  • Moenstah
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    Originally posted by Heuristic View Post
    Traditional Karate guys strike air and have non contact sparring. How on earth is that more effective training? TKD guys at least hit shit and train power.
    So you know dick about karate. Good for you.

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  • BackFistMonkey
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    Originally posted by Heuristic View Post
    TAEKWONDO is fucking infamously poor in the US. It's the motherland of Mcdojos and 5 year old black belts. ATA was their crowning achievement but ITF is not far behind. ITF in Russia on the other hand is tougher.
    Russian systema flavored TKD. I can't think of a more deluded cluster of stupid. You have any video To back up your claim of having Teeh Real TKD?

    Originally posted by hungryjoe View Post
    And you are from?

    Practicing where? You still haven't given any information about your place. Until then your opinion and experience means diddly squat.
    He/she is nothing but a troll. More than likely doesn't even train on any serious level based on the content of the posts. Oh and his IP matches his swedish claim... but we know how easy it is to manipulate that info

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  • Omega Supreme
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    Originally posted by Heuristic View Post
    TAEKWONDO is fucking infamously poor in the US. It's the motherland of Mcdojos and 5 year old black belts. ATA was their crowning achievement but ITF is not far behind. ITF in Russia on the other hand is tougher.
    Right. So we're in agreement. ITF taekwondo sucks and everybody who practices it couldn't fight their way out of a preschool.

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  • Falenay
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    Originally posted by Heuristic View Post
    Traditional Karate guys strike air and have non contact sparring. How on earth is that more effective training? TKD guys at least hit shit and train power.
    Just two points: WKF tournaments include kumite (!) and most styles include pads, bags, and mitts, conditioning, weapons, and even grappling in their training. Depending on your partner, you go up to full contact in sparring.

    Not every dojo of karate is full shotokan.

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