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So people tell me Aikido is better as a supplementary art, does wing chun add much?

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    #91
    Originally posted by kimjonghng View Post
    wouldnt JKD make you look more like bruce lee, you know, besides being of asian descent?
    Those wooden dummies though. Does jkd even use dummies? Also is it classified as kung fu? Cos chunners like to say they know kung fu or that their style is kung fu.

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      #92
      So after some research ive found a story recorded in the scrolls of the 36 chambers by the wu tang clan which documents a rift between jkd and wc. Basically they teamed up to defeat all other martial arts during the time of the great gwai lo wars (where master lee had his back broken) but at the last minute in fear of the chun becoming too strong a challenge was brought out and sorta went down like this. (There is referance to wing chun usage of swords, master wong of youtube has instructionals on butterfly swords)

      Guy 1: Jeet kun do shadow boxing and the wing chun sword style. If what you is true, the jkd and the wing chun could be dangerous! Do you think your wing chun sword can defeat me?

      Guy 2: on-guard i'll show my wing chun style!

      ***Much motherfuckin Rukus was brought***

      After 20 minutes of arguments on how wing chun would defeat others with chain punches and zig zag stepping. The man of jeet was overcome by human nature and backfisted the wing chunner, instantly flooring him. The chunner picked himself up and declared the bout to be an invalid representation of his style's effectivness as it was under sport rules and on the street, plains or fields jeet kun do would simply not work against him.

      In a further act to detach themselves of the incident all leading members of clan of chun decided to confuse anyone who might want to attack the vulnerable clan or draw them to a disadvantage by having a sports fight. They decided the best measure was reformation under the guises of Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun and Ving Chun. Some of these clans claim they are teh real kung fu wing chun but we will never know. What information can be determined is that Wing Chun and all of its off shoots and clans remain to be completly ineffective.
      Last edited by Kravbizarre; 9/21/2017 4:51am, .

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        #93
        Originally posted by Kravbizarre View Post
        So after some research ive found a story recorded in the scrolls of the 36 chambers by the wu tang clan which documents a rift between jkd and wc. Basically they teamed up to defeat all other martial arts during the time of the great gwai lo wars (where master lee had his back broken) but at the last minute in fear of the chun becoming too strong a challenge was brought out and sorta went down like this. (There is referance to wing chun usage of swords, master wong of youtube has instructionals on butterfly swords)

        Guy 1: Jeet kun do shadow boxing and the wing chun sword style. If what you is true, the jkd and the wing chun could be dangerous! Do you think your wing chun sword can defeat me?

        Guy 2: on-guard i'll show my wing chun style!

        ***Much motherfuckin Rukus was brought***

        After 20 minutes of arguments on how wing chun would defeat others with chain punches and zig zag stepping. The man on jeet was overcome by human nature and backfisted the wing chunner, instantly flooring him. The chunner picked himself up and declared the bout to be an invalid representation of his style's effectivness as it was under sport rules and on the street, plains or fields jeet kun do would simply not work against him.

        In a further act to detach themselves of the incident all leading members of clan of chun decided to confuse anyone who might want to attack the vulnerable clan or draw them to a disadvantage by having a sports fight. They decided the best measure was reformation under the guises of Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun and Ving Chun. Some of these clans claim they are teh real kung fu wing chun but we will never know. What information can be determined is that Wing Chun and all of its off shoots and clans remain to be completly ineffective.
        I believe you have made some critical "translation" errors.

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          #94
          Originally posted by kimjonghng View Post
          Already been doing Judo about 2 years now, was wondering hypothetically since I keep hearing the 'aikido is bad base but good supplement' comment when it comes to japanese arts.
          What WarnCheese said. I myself did goju for 14 years, tried a seminar of aikido and used to spar a tiny bit with a housemate who was doing wing chun. Forget wing chun, the syllabus and arsenal of goju is more varied an better imho. Forget about aikido too (no resistance training, in contrast to judo).

          Stick with judo, as it goju supposedly is for 'infighting' (lol), or add muay thai if striking is more your thing (or kyokushin)


          If you're interested in the history of some ancestor styles, here's a vid with a demo of sanchin by some kung fu stylist, uechi and goju ryu practitioners respectively. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWh-uhw4C9s

          Look at the differences. So what is the use of getting into a different art that has the same ancestor, but is so completely different that it's almost unrecognisable? (and useless)

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            #95
            Originally posted by Kravbizarre View Post
            So after some research ive found a story recorded in the scrolls of the 36 chambers by the wu tang clan which documents a rift between jkd and wc. Basically they teamed up to defeat all other martial arts during the time of the great gwai lo wars (where master lee had his back broken) but at the last minute in fear of the chun becoming too strong a challenge was brought out and sorta went down like this. (There is referance to wing chun usage of swords, master wong of youtube has instructionals on butterfly swords)

            Guy 1: Jeet kun do shadow boxing and the wing chun sword style. If what you is true, the jkd and the wing chun could be dangerous! Do you think your wing chun sword can defeat me?

            Guy 2: on-guard i'll show my wing chun style!

            ***Much motherfuckin Rukus was brought***

            After 20 minutes of arguments on how wing chun would defeat others with chain punches and zig zag stepping. The man of jeet was overcome by human nature and backfisted the wing chunner, instantly flooring him. The chunner picked himself up and declared the bout to be an invalid representation of his style's effectivness as it was under sport rules and on the street, plains or fields jeet kun do would simply not work against him.

            In a further act to detach themselves of the incident all leading members of clan of chun decided to confuse anyone who might want to attack the vulnerable clan or draw them to a disadvantage by having a sports fight. They decided the best measure was reformation under the guises of Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun and Ving Chun. Some of these clans claim they are teh real kung fu wing chun but we will never know. What information can be determined is that Wing Chun and all of its off shoots and clans remain to be completly ineffective.
            I want this in a kung fu hustle style film

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              #96
              Originally posted by Moenstah View Post
              What WarnCheese said. I myself did goju for 14 years, tried a seminar of aikido and used to spar a tiny bit with a housemate who was doing wing chun. Forget wing chun, the syllabus and arsenal of goju is more varied an better imho. Forget about aikido too (no resistance training, in contrast to judo).

              Stick with judo, as it goju supposedly is for 'infighting' (lol), or add muay thai if striking is more your thing (or kyokushin)


              If you're interested in the history of some ancestor styles, here's a vid with a demo of sanchin by some kung fu stylist, uechi and goju ryu practitioners respectively. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWh-uhw4C9s

              Look at the differences. So what is the use of getting into a different art that has the same ancestor, but is so completely different that it's almost unrecognisable? (and useless)
              may I ask why the lol on 'infighting' even though I consider it a vague term myself.

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                #97
                Are you EGKA by any chance?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Moenstah View Post
                  Are you EGKA by any chance?
                  Seiwakai

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                    #99
                    Ah took part in that seminar last year in October. I'm not with that organisations though.


                    This infighting is taught in bunkai and in kakie but that's all: compliant training. Taking up muay Thai or judo is much more useful for that if you ask me

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                      Originally posted by Moenstah View Post
                      Ah took part in that seminar last year in October. I'm not with that organisations though.


                      This infighting is taught in bunkai and in kakie but that's all: compliant training. Taking up muay Thai or judo is much more useful for that if you ask me
                      See we do spar and have a full contact sparring class or two each week so that's fine for now, but Im pretty sure that's cause my coach has been a knockdown fighter and kickboxer as well, so he might not have the same attitudes as some in terms of how karate and striking should be taught.

                      I honestly think if I ended up moving away, I'd be looking at a different style, like muay thai or sambo. Already doing Judo

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                        Good, continu doing judo, two years is quite short. And you'll learn a lot of useful stuff, especially when crashing with (mountain)bikes or when skiing, so it's the most useful martial art in daily life. Win!

                        I think your teacher would have good common sense then.

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                          Originally posted by Moenstah View Post
                          Good, continu doing judo, two years is quite short. And you'll learn a lot of useful stuff, especially when crashing with (mountain)bikes or when skiing, so it's the most useful martial art in daily life. Win!

                          I think your teacher would have good common sense then.
                          You mentioning skiing has reminded me to stop by manchester and check out Chill Factor, thanks haha

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