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    Strength and weight: How an untrained 42 year old allegedly choked out a purple belt

    Just a quick goofy thing I read on Reddit today.

    Apparently an untrained and out of shape 42 year old software developer went to an introductory BJJ class where upon he took issue with the instructor saying "that strength and weight don't matter against technique".

    Now this is an old debate that we all know the answer to: of course strength and weight help, skill can only get you so far (a skinny 5'3" vegetarian dude from New Jersey could train his whole life but still get eaten alive by Jake the Snake and his violating moustache).


    Now our hero took exception to this understandably, he's a big guy at 205lbs (obvs the kind of intense muscle you can only get from long hours of programming and eating Findus 'Beef' Lasagne), and so he rightly challenges the instructor and then: "very slowly and carefully, and with a friendly smile, chocked him with his own gi".

    Holy shit, I knew weight mattered in a fight but I didn't think an unexperienced gimp could choke out a Purple belt just because he was a fat fucker!

    Forget training this week, I'm gonna shack myself up with several dozen pastries for a few days and see if I can't follow in my heros example. I'll be getting gold at ADCC before I know it, watch your back Claudio Calasans!

    Anyway back to the story: "He obviously didn't want to tap out and started thrashing around. When the main instructor came and stopped it, my opponent said I was too agressive. My wife was blue belt and tapping out purple belts (different gym), when she quit because of BS going on in this scene."

    Our hero finishes with quite the damning verdict on the art:"bjj is a game. A dangerous one, with lots of injuries, but does not really prepare for real life situations, due to 1-on-1 nature and lots of restrictions embedded in muscle memory to prevent injury to opponent. The real world is opposite."

    Now I've been a lurker on this site for a long ass time so I've heard some shitty attacks on BJJ, but "restrictions embedded in muscle memory" might be the wackiest I've ever heard.

    Now obviously our hero chooses the martial art fit only for a man of his intellectual prowess:

    "I am personally partial for Russian Systema, use one inch punches to break wood, and no artificial sport restrictions BS"

    What an argument, I might just be sold on this "Russian Systema"!

    In all honesty the guy might just be fucking with everyone but deep down I want to believe he really thinks all this shit.

    And bonus fact: apparently in his concealed carry bag he carries a portable toilet in case he gets stuck in traffic too long!


    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comment...7z&sh=bfe3425c

    Conceal carry bag: https://www.reddit.com/r/bugout/comm...g2&sh=c1a7363f
    Last edited by liquid engineer; 7/23/2017 10:22am, . Reason: Spelling

    #2
    Originally posted by liquid engineer View Post
    Just a quick goofy thing I read on Reddit today.

    Apparently an untrained and out of shape 42 year old software developer went to an introductory BJJ class where upon he took issue with the instructor saying "that strength and weight don't matter against technique".

    Now this is an old debate that we all know the answer to: of course strength and weight help, skill can only get you so far (a skinny 5'3" vegetarian dude from New Jersey could train his whole life but still get eaten alive by Jake the Snake and his violating moustache).


    Now our hero took exception to this understandably, he's a big guy at 205lbs (obvs the kind of intense muscle you can only get from long hours of programming and eating Findus 'Beef' Lasagne), and so he rightly challenges the instructor and then: "very slowly and carefully, and with a friendly smile, chocked him with his own gi".

    Holy shit, I knew weight mattered in a fight but I didn't think an unexperienced gimp could choke out a Purple belt just because he was a fat fucker!

    Forget training this week, I'm gonna shack myself up with several dozen pastries for a few days and see if I can't follow in my heros example. I'll be getting gold at ADCC before I know it, watch your back Claudio Calasans!

    Anyway back to the story: "He obviously didn't want to tap out and started thrashing around. When the main instructor came and stopped it, my opponent said I was too agressive. My wife was blue belt and tapping out purple belts (different gym), when she quit because of BS going on in this scene."

    Our hero finishes with quite the damning verdict on the art:"bjj is a game. A dangerous one, with lots of injuries, but does not really prepare for real life situations, due to 1-on-1 nature and lots of restrictions embedded in muscle memory to prevent injury to opponent. The real world is opposite."

    Now I've been a lurker on this site for a long ass time so I've heard some shitty attacks on BJJ, but "restrictions embedded in muscle memory" might be the wackiest I've ever heard.

    Now obviously our hero chooses the martial art fit only for a man of his intellectual prowess:

    "I am personally partial for Russian Systema, use one inch punches to break wood, and no artificial sport restrictions BS"

    What an argument, I might just be sold on this "Russian Systema"!

    In all honesty the guy might just be fucking with everyone but deep down I want to believe he really thinks all this shit.

    And bonus fact: apparently in his concealed carry bag he carries a portable toilet in case he gets stuck in traffic too long!


    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comment...7z&sh=bfe3425c

    Conceal carry bag: https://www.reddit.com/r/bugout/comm...g2&sh=c1a7363f
    He's a fucking idiot and full of shit.
    Tell him to go to Balance Studios and prove it. I will see if i can get the video on the mat cameras if he does and post it.
    Either way I could get to verify his claim via trusted sources.
    The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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      #3
      Today, on "Things that Never Happened!"
      "Systema, which means, 'the system'..."

      Originally posted by strikistanian
      DROP SEIONAGI MOTHERFUCKER! Except I don't know Judo, so it doesn't work, and he takes my back.
      Originally posted by Devil
      Why is it so goddamn hard to find a video of it? I've seen videos I'm pretty sure are alien spacecraft. But still no good Krav.
      Originally posted by Plasma
      At the point, I must act! You see my rashguard saids "Jiu Jitsu vs The World" and "The World" was standing in front me teaching Anti-Grappling in a school I help run.
      Originally posted by SoulMechanic
      Thank you, not dying really rewarding in more ways than I can express.

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        #4
        Originally posted by liquid engineer View Post
        Just a quick goofy thing I read on Reddit today.

        Apparently an untrained and out of shape 42 year old software developer went to an introductory BJJ class where upon he took issue with the instructor saying "that strength and weight don't matter against technique".

        Now this is an old debate that we all know the answer to: of course strength and weight help, skill can only get you so far (a skinny 5'3" vegetarian dude from New Jersey could train his whole life but still get eaten alive by Jake the Snake and his violating moustache).


        Now our hero took exception to this understandably, he's a big guy at 205lbs (obvs the kind of intense muscle you can only get from long hours of programming and eating Findus 'Beef' Lasagne), and so he rightly challenges the instructor and then: "very slowly and carefully, and with a friendly smile, chocked him with his own gi".

        Holy shit, I knew weight mattered in a fight but I didn't think an unexperienced gimp could choke out a Purple belt just because he was a fat fucker!

        Forget training this week, I'm gonna shack myself up with several dozen pastries for a few days and see if I can't follow in my heros example. I'll be getting gold at ADCC before I know it, watch your back Claudio Calasans!

        Anyway back to the story: "He obviously didn't want to tap out and started thrashing around. When the main instructor came and stopped it, my opponent said I was too agressive. My wife was blue belt and tapping out purple belts (different gym), when she quit because of BS going on in this scene."

        Our hero finishes with quite the damning verdict on the art:"bjj is a game. A dangerous one, with lots of injuries, but does not really prepare for real life situations, due to 1-on-1 nature and lots of restrictions embedded in muscle memory to prevent injury to opponent. The real world is opposite."

        Now I've been a lurker on this site for a long ass time so I've heard some shitty attacks on BJJ, but "restrictions embedded in muscle memory" might be the wackiest I've ever heard.

        Now obviously our hero chooses the martial art fit only for a man of his intellectual prowess:

        "I am personally partial for Russian Systema, use one inch punches to break wood, and no artificial sport restrictions BS"

        What an argument, I might just be sold on this "Russian Systema"!

        In all honesty the guy might just be fucking with everyone but deep down I want to believe he really thinks all this shit.

        And bonus fact: apparently in his concealed carry bag he carries a portable toilet in case he gets stuck in traffic too long!


        Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comment...7z&sh=bfe3425c

        Conceal carry bag: https://www.reddit.com/r/bugout/comm...g2&sh=c1a7363f
        I am saddened to say that it is very likely survival dude is genuine in his thinking.

        Unfortunately, I know a few fuckwads like him, so I will testify to their existence firsthand.

        I used to get unsettled by people who would spew forth bullshit like this. As I have gotten older I have learned that it is more fun to ridicule them before ignoring them and moving on.

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          #5
          Well it's on Reddit so it must be true.

          If only Reddit had throwdowns
          King without a crown

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            #6
            He posted in EDC, which is full of karma farming tactical fatasses.

            The reddit BJJ and Judo communities are pretty good. So is their firearms subreddit.

            Overall though, I stopped posting in a lot of subreddits. For a while it was fun to take the piss out of them, but then that got old. I just ignore them now.

            /r/mallninjashit is pretty cool though. Where else will you find legit SEAL team Delta stuff like this

            https://www.reddit.com/r/mallninjash...for_when_your/
            Last edited by omoplatypus; 7/23/2017 1:00pm, .

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              #7
              This reminds me of a video I saw a while back
              https://www.facebook.com/Superliftin...0054738034985/
              Big fat dude manhandles a small grappler. Of course, we don't know what level the small guy is, or anything about the gym, or even what style of grappling it was, so I'm not trying to suggest this means anything, but I thought it was relevant

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                #8
                I won't discount it as impossible, especially if there's a huge size difference. It's possible, and embarrassing for the purple belt if it happened. Shit happens. But it's irrelevant. Skill is about having the ability to consistently win. If he rolls with that purple belt a hundred more times, he'll lose every time.

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                  #9
                  Pics or it didn't happen.

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                    #10
                    Funny enough, I just found an old submission grappling match where Vitor Belfort loses to a powerlifter.
                    Dan Severn loves raping people.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Holy Moment View Post
                      Funny enough, I just found an old submission grappling match where Vitor Belfort loses to a powerlifter.
                      Vitor isn't very good at grappling by competition black belt standards.
                      The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Raycetpfl View Post
                        Vitor isn't very good at grappling by competition black belt standards.
                        The same powerlifter also beat Jeff Monson.

                        Powerlifting is better than BJJ.
                        Dan Severn loves raping people.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Holy Moment View Post
                          The same powerlifter also beat Jeff Monson.

                          Powerlifting is better than BJJ.
                          Ok wait..... that cat had training then.

                          Vitor is 100% fast twitch muscle. If you can grind on him for 5+ mins his muscles shutdown and hes left with only less than world class technical grappling ability.

                          I will also say if I had to name the group of people that aren't full contact fighters that would stand the best chance against those that are is Power Lifters and Worlds Strongest Man competitors.
                          The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Raycetpfl View Post
                            Ok wait..... that cat had training then.

                            Vitor is 100% fast twitch muscle. If you can grind on him for 5+ mins his muscles shutdown and hes left with only less than world class technical grappling ability.

                            I will also say if I had to name the group of people that aren't full contact fighters that would stand the best chance against those that are is Power Lifters and Worlds Strongest Man competitors.
                            He was using mainly powerlifting techniques.

                            Seriously, though, his name's Mark Robinson and he competed in just about every grappling style known to man (Sumo and Schwingen included). He won the heavyweight division in the 2001 ADCC World Championships.
                            Dan Severn loves raping people.

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                              #15
                              Dan Severn loves raping people.

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