Where to learn effective self-defense with knife?

[Flounce]

First time on this website, just registered. Came here because I don't want to be referred to some traditional knife fighting style that is, well, bullshido.

I live in Orange County, CA. If I am interested in learning how to defend myself using a knife, where would I learn that? I know that it is not substitute for knowing how to fight (I'm training in BJJ and hope to do striking at some point), and is something that can easily land someone in prison if used inappropriately. Thanks for your thoughtful responses.

[BackFistMonkey]

Basic Tech ----------> YMAS for beating and stabbing dead horses, looking outside BJJ for self defense, jail, TMA hate, and California.

[Flounce]

Basic Tech ----------> YMAS for beating and stabbing dead horses, looking outside BJJ for self defense, jail, TMA hate, and California.

Hi, I didn't really understand your post. And I don't know YMAS stands for.

[Mandem]

Hi, I didn't really understand your post. And I don't know YMAS stands for.

You posted in the wrong section of the forum so he moved the thread

[BackFistMonkey]

Basic Tech = Basic and Misc. Fighting Technique Discussion
YMAS= Your Martial Art Sucks

Both are subforums. Basic Tech is for serious questions about the technical aspects of basic Martial Arts and YMAS is for discussing common tropes, topics discussed to death, and other such tired ideas like "street vs sport", "style vs style", "How Do Knife Fighting", and "How Do Self Defense".


What style do you think is going to better prepare you do a knife attack? I am 100% sure you already have something in mind? Why not share your idea?

[hungryjoe]

[ermghoti]

I don't believe there are sufficient real world scenarios where fighting with a knife is a reasonable option to make it worth pursuing from a self defense perspective. Legally and practically, if the threat is dire enough to warrant a lethal response, a firearm is obviously superior. Even if a firearm is not a legal option, knife fighting against an armed opponent is so hazardous that I'm at a loss imagining where compliance or flight are not the clear choices.

I'm not versed in the use of a knife, my understanding is that Dog Brothers is the ideal route to pursue. You will note how blunt they are (pun intended) in their assessment of the feasibility of prevailing in a knife fight though.

[Omega Supreme]

I would suggest the track. <Seriously.

What part of Orange County do you live in. I know it may be an hour drive but if you'd cruise over to the Dan Inasanto Academy or contact them and see if any of their instructors are in the area. I would say that would be your next best bet.

[BackFistMonkey]

That is exactly what you don't want to see.

[Michael Tzadok]

I would suggest the track. <Seriously.

What part of Orange County do you live in. I know it may be an hour drive but if you'd cruise over to the Dan Inasanto Academy or contact them and see if any of their instructors are in the area. I would say that would be your next best bet.

^^Quoted for truth.

If defense against knives is really all that you are looking at a martial art for I suggest you save yourself the monthly club fees and invest that money in a good pair of running shoes and some knife resistant clothing I personally think these guys are the best bang for your buck:
http://www.ppss-group.com/

[Michael Tzadok]

I would suggest the track. <Seriously.

What part of Orange County do you live in. I know it may be an hour drive but if you'd cruise over to the Dan Inasanto Academy or contact them and see if any of their instructors are in the area. I would say that would be your next best bet.

^^Quoted for truth.

If defense against knives is really all that you are looking at a martial art for I suggest you save yourself the monthly club fees and invest that money in a good pair of running shoes and some knife resistant clothing I personally think these guys are the best bang for your buck:
http://www.ppss-group.com/

Beyond that I can teach you everything you need to know to defend yourself against a knife attack in about 20-30mins. For you to be able to apply those skills in any meaningful way however, you are going to need to have years of training in some sort of grappling sport that emphasizes wrist and arm control, think SAMBO, Judo or BJJ. Without that, and a good bit of sparring, running will be your best bet. With that, running will still probably be your go to option, but you will have some defensive capability should that not be available.

Oh and I should probably mention that the likelihood of someone pulling a knife on you for anything other than intimidation is really low, and you are probably best off just giving them what they want(wallet, keys, shoes). If you are going to engage someone, even unarmed outside of a sporting event, you are gambling your life, make no mistake about that, ultimately you have to decide what is worth your life. Getting mugged is a shot to the pride without a doubt. Is your pride, the $100 in your wallet, and the credit cards you can cancel and replace worth your life?

[Flounce]

Thanks for the responses.

Allow me to clarify:

I'm looking for instruction on how I can effectively use a knife to defend myself against someone bigger or stronger than me who does *not* have a knife nor any training in bladed weapons. E.g. big dude(s) on the street or in a parking structure at night who I want to avoid trading punches with or going to the ground with.

I live in Irvine.

Thanks.

[Holy Moment]

Thanks for the responses.

Allow me to clarify:

I'm looking for instruction on how I can effectively use a knife to defend myself against someone bigger or stronger than me who does *not* have a knife nor any training in bladed weapons. E.g. big dude(s) on the street or in a parking structure at night who I want to avoid trading punches with or going to the ground with.

I live in Irvine.

Thanks.

^ Just do this.

[Tranquil Suit]

Thanks for the responses.

Allow me to clarify:

I'm looking for instruction on how I can effectively use a knife to defend myself against someone bigger or stronger than me who does *not* have a knife nor any training in bladed weapons. E.g. big dude(s) on the street or in a parking structure at night who I want to avoid trading punches with or going to the ground with.

I live in Irvine.

Thanks.

Why a knife? Why not say a tazer gun?

[goodlun]

You live in Irvine what the heck are you scared about?
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/irvine/crime

aside your irrational fear
https://dogbrothers.com/
is one of the best Knife defense resource around.

For instruction on using a knife on someone that is empty handed?
Well you better have some damn good legal insurance the State of CA doesn't look to kindly at that.
Also its take the pointy end and put it into them as many times as you can.