I am officially calling you out Rayce you coward.

[Raycetpfl]

So, what caused all of this?

I am assuming traumatic brain injury or genetics.

[Michael Tzadok]

So, what caused all of this?

Well it started when OP, hereafter known as Wanker, necroed this thread http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100120, and claimed that he earned one of those fraudulant JJJ BBs. He also claimed that despeite the fraud said black belt was better than a BJJ black belt and represented a higher "real world" skill level. Rayce took exception and asked for proof.

Wanker than made several threads claiming that wrestling(American Folkstyle, as represented in HS and D1) were better than BJJ. In said thread he conflated the skill levels of HS and D1, and claimed both were higher than those of actual Olympians. He also claimed that 6mos of wrestling at a kids club followed by 6mos of boxing at a golden gloves club would enable one to "beat the snot" out of a BJJ Black Belt. Said thread was moved to trollshido. http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126643

Then in a bid for respectability Wanker posted in this thread http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...126495&page=12, where he was summarily shut down by actual experienced grapplers and you and JNP called into question his grappling experience.

Thus, his pride being mortally wounded, feeling slighted by the BJJ community and the bullshido community he felt the need to redeem himself in the age old fashion of a duel to the death, and picked Rayce to be the object of his outrage and thus challengee.

[Tramirezmma]

In the early nineties, a Brazilian named Rorion Gracie organized a cross style, loose rules tournament called the UFC.

His younger brother, Royce Gracie won the first two UFC tournaments, and proved that grappling, specifically Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, was highly effective when used in one on one empty hand fights with loose rules and extended time limits, against other styles, even against heavier opponents.

Solid answer

[Dr. Gonzo]

So, what caused all of this?

In the early nineties, a Brazilian named Rorion Gracie organized a cross style, loose rules tournament called the UFC.

His younger brother, Royce Gracie won the first two UFC tournaments, and proved that grappling, specifically Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, was highly effective when used in one on one empty hand fights with loose rules and extended time limits, against other styles, even against heavier opponents.

[Omega Supreme]

So, what caused all of this?

[ChenPengFi]

All my whip training was done elsewhere.


We practiced with both leather and cool whips.

I was trying to come up with a "squeal like a piggy" reference but that works, hahahaha...

[Raycetpfl]

"Florida man arrested after pre-meditated "knife duel""

It wouldn't even make the front page.

[Raycetpfl]

He did routinely beat guns with whips though.

All my whip training was done elsewhere.


We practiced with both leather and cool whips.

[Mandem]

Just for the record I am with you on this.

Rayce is 100% a pussy for not accepting this challenge.

Yeah can you imagine not travelling across the country to fight some nutter to the death with live blades? Pussyhole

[PDA]

The 42 page long thread was a Troll, yes. It illustrated the true nature of the characters here. I was hoping it would hit 50 pages. So yeah, when mods decided to eviscerate the thread because they could not handle the truth I was unhappy. It was a simple act of cover our asses 101. It illustrated the foolishness that goes on here.

So, I offered another challenge. You are all terrified of a real knife fight and I am not. I also know my skill set very well. Someone probably did some back ground research on my blade training and realized what they were in for.

So here is the challenge now, and it is a fantastic idea: We fight with shock knives. Awesome! There is no need for a silly 45 minute break. I will take rayces weapon hand (in a real fight I would cut it 50% off) and then cut and stab his torso. I will be sure to catch his neck oncve or 3 times. With a real blade I would disassemble him quickly and send him home in a trash bag. He is just going to get some shocks this way. Great idea.

It would take less than 15 seconds to finish him unless he runs from me.

There is really nothing more for me to say here. Either accept the challenge or not. It is going to be a lot of fun for me. Pass the hat around and raise the money.

Put my 42 page thread back where it belongs to generate donations.

Just for the record I am with you on this.

Rayce is 100% a pussy for not accepting this challenge.

[Bneterasedmynam]

Most of Australia is wild, lawless bush where is it considered perfectly lawful to carry a survival knife.

The knife laws in Australia largely target street criminals and thugs with concealable blades.. not reasonable (practical) knife or cutting tool use, such as self defense from charging wallabies, hunting, or bushwalking the Outback in general.

You can legally purchase these at 18, mate.

Are you posting that because you got my redneck toothpick joke??

[Pship Destroyer]

I don't think you're using your puckish epigrams to their full advantage..

OK...lets just cut through all the bullshit. This site is a fraud, and when you challenge someone they curse you etc.

There is a very easy way to resolve this dispute. A challenge match. I challenged Rayce to a fight on the feet, and he dick tucked. I am just a frail little old man, and According to Rayce my martial art background is a complete fraud. I have absolutely no skills.

I said we should meet and fight and that way he could witness himself, and of course he dick tucked. That is a fact, you can bury all my posts down here in Trollville, but I know that truth and you know the truth. By the time he got to the mat to demonstrate his BJJ skills he would be unconscious.

I asked him about his stand up, who he trained with, but he refused refused to say, just repeated that he had excellent stand up skills ho did he train with?

I provided a partial list of who I trained with and simply asked him who he trained under, just give me a name. I asked several times and the best answer I got was he had a wrestler in his class once. I researchedd and researched and could not find anyone with a serious striking or wrestling background.

I kept asking with no answer. That is because the truth is, he has not put in any serious training in a legit school. He is good at ground fighting and maybe had some basic Gracie combatives but he has never trained in a real stand up gym.

This is common because BJJ guys (I am one, I trained for 3-4 years) are arrogant and live in a fantasy world. You relly believe that your training is equal to what I have gotten from professional strikers in nreal deal camps...BJJ stand up is a joke, I am sorry.

Why else woyuld a frail 54 year old man (OK...I have deadlifted 600 lbs and won many BB titles, but that was long ago) challenge a young man to a fight? Because I know what would happen. I know the type of stand up training you get in a BJJ class. It is either poor, or non existant.

That is the product of the disrespect you guys , at least the ones I have met here, have for wrestling and boxing. I posted this thread in the hopes of fostering an intelligent convo, but that never happened. I actually predicted what would happen. Name calling insults and no real discussion of the topic. I even did a little study that showed the ratio of wrestlers to BJJ artists in the UFC. Narly five to 1.

You guys are bully's. You will run over to a Wing Chun school and beat some people easily. But when you aere chakllenged by a real man with real skills, all you do is levy insults.

None of that bothered me. What bothers me is that you guys tried to bury the truth by hiding this thread dowm here where it will not get traffic.

However you can't hide the truth. Some of you are outstanding guys, like WF. Buty Rayce, et al. Your bully's and cowards. You ARE Bullshido.

Razce should have taken my challenge: I giot a oartial tear in my hamstring 2 days ago (doing a fake spinning back kick).

Now there are limitations on my skills. Therefore lets change it up: Rayce claims I train in a fake Kali program. All my skills are fake, right? We both no damn well where that true you would have accepted my challenge on the spot. You didn't. You just insulted me (I love all the down votes...did I set a record?). From the safety of your computer.

So, there is a very easy way to settle this. This is common ion the Philiines.

We fight. With blades anything that is legal to carry. That is 5 inches or smaller.

I am officially calling you out, coward.

Like I said. I am a frail little old 54 year old man with only one good leg.

Come cut me to little pieces, and you can then play in my blood.

You guys can do all you wan't to hide your true nature, as bullies. Not everyone, of course. Don't start no stuff unless you can back it up. There will be stuff.

Bury my posts as deep as you want. The truth will come out.

There is an easy way to settle this, and I can do it even without my left hamstring.

I have

[Pship Destroyer]

I call bullshit. Our rednecks have bigger toothpicks than your knives, besides you guys practically have the same weapon laws as the UK which means the only place Australians can carry knives is in horrible movies.

Most of Australia is wild, lawless bush where is it considered perfectly lawful to carry a survival knife.

The knife laws in Australia largely target street criminals and thugs with concealable blades.. not reasonable (practical) knife or cutting tool use, such as self defense from charging wallabies, hunting, or bushwalking the Outback in general.

You can legally purchase these at 18, mate.

[Kravbizarre]

I call bullshit. Our rednecks have bigger toothpicks than your knives, besides you guys practically have the same weapon laws as the UK which means the only place Australians can carry knives is in horrible movies.

I see you have played knifey spooney before.

Yeah your right in all with what you said. if a cop wants to be a dick, you can get charged (but you'll get a fine either way) for having a swiss army knife in your pocket down here.


Back to topic. So we have unbeatable unarmed, unbeatable blade skills, descriptions on how he will strike with the blade, hes a heavy set guy, dillusional and is willing to fight on teh street.

Sounds alot like the guy in the 'diary of a rbsd', the dude with the tri blade lol

[Bneterasedmynam]

Im going to have fun reading the rest of this thread later.

Lol OP challenges rayce to knife fight stating anything that is legal length to carry but doesnt care if its legal to knife fight? So what the street has rules now, say rayce rocks up with a gun. You lose old man.

Ill accept a knife challenge but only cos im from Australia and ours are bigger =P

I call bullshit. Our rednecks have bigger toothpicks than your knives, besides you guys practically have the same weapon laws as the UK which means the only place Australians can carry knives is in horrible movies.