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  • NeilG
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    Originally posted by NeilG View Post
    Somewhat similarly, I have read that swinging a weighted bat is bad for your golf swing
    Baseball swing. It may be bad for your golf swing too, I don't know: mine can't get much worse.

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  • slamdunc
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    Originally posted by NeilG View Post
    As to the original question, I think the more similar the activities the more likely you are to confuse them, but with experience you can overcome it. So I think it's not a great idea to learn two punching arts at once as a beginner, it's fine to pick another one up after you have a decent level of skill with the first.
    I totally agree with your summary.

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  • NeilG
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    Originally posted by ermghoti View Post
    That's exactly the problem: they are similar enough that the fine motor details that need to happen unconsciously can contaminate each other. Now that I think of it, a baseball swing might hurt a golf swing worse than the other way around, but when my cousin was trying to pick up golf, he was warned not to work on his golf swing during baseball season.

    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/...wingbent-over/
    Somewhat similarly, I have read that swinging a weighted bat is bad for your golf swing, as the skill to swing a much heavier version of the same thing is related but different. For this reason, I discourage my students from using weighted shinai or bokuto for practice swings.

    As to the original question, I think the more similar the activities the more likely you are to confuse them, but with experience you can overcome it. So I think it's not a great idea to learn two punching arts at once as a beginner, it's fine to pick another one up after you have a decent level of skill with the first.

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  • submessenger
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Is it? Do we have some famous examples that give it, its notoriety?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_golf is a bad idea. Perhaps not relevant to this conversation, but it's the first thing I thought of when I thought "baseball+golf." The second thing was Happy Gilmore. That was a good idea.

    (edit) The Cutting Edge was a bad idea, though.

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  • ChenPengFi
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    "Leg" is a great example.

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  • slamdunc
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Nice try fuck twit in this instance you Muscle Memory = Motor Memory.
    As we all fucking know that Motor Memory is a real fucking thing.
    Just because the scientific community doesn't recognize a term that is used by laymen doesn't mean the term isn't real.
    Think of Muscle Memory as jargon.
    All you are trying to do is sit here and make you look like you are superior cause you use the more scientifically accepted term, all you really are doing is looking like a douche bag.
    Originally posted by jwinch2 View Post
    As for the rest, words have meaning, and we should use the correct ones. The term "muscle memory" is never used in motor learning, except when followed by laughter.

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  • ermghoti
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Not since my youth, and golfing wasn't a hobby of mine at the time. Hell golfing isn't a hobby of mine now even though I really enjoy it, but it is seriously to expensive.
    I mean it comes down to the same thing for both though keep your eye on the ball and try and keep your swing in a single plane of motion if you can.
    That's exactly the problem: they are similar enough that the fine motor details that need to happen unconsciously can contaminate each other. Now that I think of it, a baseball swing might hurt a golf swing worse than the other way around, but when my cousin was trying to pick up golf, he was warned not to work on his golf swing during baseball season.

    http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/...wingbent-over/

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  • ChenPengFi
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post


    No its correct for your field,
    What field would that be?
    Did I miss something?

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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by jwinch2 View Post
    Many things are used in the common vernacular, and they are still wrong.
    Nice try fuck twit in this instance you Muscle Memory = Motor Memory.
    As we all fucking know that Motor Memory is a real fucking thing.
    Just because the scientific community doesn't recognize a term that is used by laymen doesn't mean the term isn't real.
    Think of Muscle Memory as jargon.
    All you are trying to do is sit here and make you look like you are superior cause you use the more scientifically accepted term, all you really are doing is looking like a douche bag.

    Originally posted by jwinch2 View Post
    So is "Chi", and it is every bit as real.
    I am sorry is there another word used for "chi" inside the science community like there is for Muscle Memory?
    Is chi even used uniformly to discuss one set of real world phenomena?
    Unlike Chi the effects of "muscle memory" do have a counter part.

    Originally posted by jwinch2 View Post
    It's not a narrow definition, it's a correct one. There's a difference.
    No its correct for your field, it does not make it incorrect for use by lay people.
    Its silly to split hairs over it with lay people.

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  • ChenPengFi
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    Originally posted by jwinch2 View Post
    Many things are used in the common vernacular, and they are still wrong.
    Depends on the context.

    So is "Chi", and it is every bit as real.

    Hahahahaahahaaa!
    No it is not.
    Stfu...


    99% of the time I have heard that, it is used improperly.

    It's not a narrow definition, it's a correct one. There's a difference.

    He clarified within the op, you're just digging in for no reason now.

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  • BackFistMonkey
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    Originally posted by ChenPengFi View Post
    it's broken now ...

    That was an awesome gif.

    Like a cute kitten pawing at the dust in a moonbeam.

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  • jwinch2
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Yes but it is used in the common vernacular, its meaning is very well understood as such.
    Many things are used in the common vernacular, and they are still wrong.

    This is a martial arts based web site, the term "muscle memory" is used in martial arts.
    So is "Chi", and it is every bit as real.

    So fuck off with your academic view on the word.
    Be sure to return the favor

    Was a though expressed and communicated properly to the group? Yes, yes it was we all know what the fuck is meant by muscle memory.
    99% of the time I have heard that, it is used improperly.

    So you can fuck off with your more narrowed definitions based on your line of work or study.
    It's not a narrow definition, it's a correct one. There's a difference.
    Last edited by jwinch2; 6/18/2016 5:50pm, .

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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by ermghoti View Post
    You've never hung around youth baseball players? That's a pretty standard admonition.
    Not since my youth, and golfing wasn't a hobby of mine at the time. Hell golfing isn't a hobby of mine now even though I really enjoy it, but it is seriously to expensive.
    I mean it comes down to the same thing for both though keep your eye on the ball and try and keep your swing in a single plane of motion if you can.

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  • ermghoti
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Is it? Do we have some famous examples that give it, its notoriety?
    You've never hung around youth baseball players? That's a pretty standard admonition.

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  • ChenPengFi
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    I think the idea that you can slow your progress has merit, but more often than not it's probably just an excuse used by lazy and unadventurous people.

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