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    One of the most difficult skills in the martial arts is fighting women. The problem is that a woman just flat out CAN NOT win a fight against a man. Could Rousey beat your 120lb drunken untrained cousin Bob? Sure, but that's not the topic. For all intents and purposes, women CAN NOT beat men. Delusional self defense and martial arts instructors claiming otherwise is pure bullshido. What CAN women do? Fight hard enough and well enough to earn themselves a proper ass kicking and/or trigger a man's defensive response. This raises several important issues for the male martial artists in arranging his defense against aggressive females. The first issue is that no matter what you do, or what the circumstance is, you will have to fight the white knight, be it a bystander or the legal system. The second, is that should you be chivalrous yourself, you'll not wish to deal out assloads of damage. This is where things get interesting.

    I've found that there are two types of women that will attack you, women that can fight, and women that can't. A woman that can't fight is safer for all parties. She'll deal only slap damage and can be easily restrained by grabbing the arms. This has the benefit of her not being able to hurt you and you not NEEDING to hurt her. The second type is a woman that can fight. They're dangerous in and of themselves, but they also draw out white knights due to the force needed to stop them. They like to attack first, attack without warning and attack in effective manners. They are dangerous. Like all women, they CAN NOT WIN. However, they can deal damage, and may deal enough damage, should they be left to their own devices, to hurt you.

    I personally have witnessed a number of attacks in this manner. In one encounter, which was nearly fatal, a woman attacked a man from behind, choking him. He countered with a reverse headbutt. Yes Plasma, those work. She was, like the TMA guys promise, maimed. In another incident, a woman attacked a man with multiple blows to the head. He deflected them and began to counter when he was bum rushed by police. In another incident, a woman assaulted a manager and two security guards before being choked. Now, what would I suggest in terms of staying out of jail and remaining safe?

    1. Never underestimate a woman's capacity for violence.

    They should be on your radar just like men. This helps you to:

    2. Shut them down proactively.

    In Starship Troopers, there's a brilliant scene were the drill sargent is struck by a recruit. So they pull the sargent aside and ask him WTF the problem is. Why did he allow himself to be struck? Cause they might have to hang the recruit. When they act up, it can be tempting to treat them with kids gloves. Don't. Treat them aggressively. Let them know they can't win. Then they won't attack you.

    3. Realize that women are MORE prone to violence.

    They're not used to consequences. Men won't swing on you. Why? Cause they don't want to die. Women assume that men won't fight back. Makes them more likely to attack.

    Anyways, that's my thoughts on dealing with violent women without going to jail. Shut it down early and aggressively. Let her know in your stance she can instigate a fight, but that she can't WIN a fight. Then you'll neither have to eat a blow or see a cell.

    #2
    And Jesus Christ, if you're teaching these women that they can fight men, just stop.

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      #3
      Originally posted by The Villain View Post
      One of the most difficult skills in the martial arts is fighting women. The problem is that a woman just flat out CAN NOT win a fight against a man. Could Rousey beat your 120lb drunken untrained cousin Bob? Sure, but that's not the topic. For all intents and purposes, women CAN NOT beat men. Delusional self defense and martial arts instructors claiming otherwise is pure bullshido. What CAN women do? Fight hard enough and well enough to earn themselves a proper ass kicking and/or trigger a man's defensive response. This raises several important issues for the male martial artists in arranging his defense against aggressive females. The first issue is that no matter what you do, or what the circumstance is, you will have to fight the white knight, be it a bystander or the legal system. The second, is that should you be chivalrous yourself, you'll not wish to deal out assloads of damage. This is where things get interesting.

      I've found that there are two types of women that will attack you, women that can fight, and women that can't. A woman that can't fight is safer for all parties. She'll deal only slap damage and can be easily restrained by grabbing the arms. This has the benefit of her not being able to hurt you and you not NEEDING to hurt her. The second type is a woman that can fight. They're dangerous in and of themselves, but they also draw out white knights due to the force needed to stop them. They like to attack first, attack without warning and attack in effective manners. They are dangerous. Like all women, they CAN NOT WIN. However, they can deal damage, and may deal enough damage, should they be left to their own devices, to hurt you.

      I personally have witnessed a number of attacks in this manner. In one encounter, which was nearly fatal, a woman attacked a man from behind, choking him. He countered with a reverse headbutt. Yes Plasma, those work. She was, like the TMA guys promise, maimed. In another incident, a woman attacked a man with multiple blows to the head. He deflected them and began to counter when he was bum rushed by police. In another incident, a woman assaulted a manager and two security guards before being choked. Now, what would I suggest in terms of staying out of jail and remaining safe?

      1. Never underestimate a woman's capacity for violence.

      They should be on your radar just like men. This helps you to:

      2. Shut them down proactively.

      In Starship Troopers, there's a brilliant scene were the drill sargent is struck by a recruit. So they pull the sargent aside and ask him WTF the problem is. Why did he allow himself to be struck? Cause they might have to hang the recruit. When they act up, it can be tempting to treat them with kids gloves. Don't. Treat them aggressively. Let them know they can't win. Then they won't attack you.

      3. Realize that women are MORE prone to violence.

      They're not used to consequences. Men won't swing on you. Why? Cause they don't want to die. Women assume that men won't fight back. Makes them more likely to attack.

      Anyways, that's my thoughts on dealing with violent women without going to jail. Shut it down early and aggressively. Let her know in your stance she can instigate a fight, but that she can't WIN a fight. Then you'll neither have to eat a blow or see a cell.
      What did I just read?! Also, I love how I got called out in your rant.

      I am just going to point out that I have and still train with many women that could handle themselves against a male attacker.

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        #4
        I've run into plenty of skilled women in BJJ, MMA, and Muay Thai. The average 130lb female blue belt can kick plenty of untrained male ass.

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          #5
          Originally posted by plasma View Post
          What did I just read?!
          I'm asking myself the same question. Looks like written by somenone who is into the Red Pill Movement.

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            #6
            Originally posted by The Villain View Post
            One of the most difficult skills in the martial arts is fighting women. The problem is that a woman just flat out CAN NOT win a fight against a man. Could Rousey beat your 120lb drunken untrained cousin Bob? Sure, but that's not the topic. For all intents and purposes, women CAN NOT beat men. Delusional self defense and martial arts instructors claiming otherwise is pure bullshido. What CAN women do? Fight hard enough and well enough to earn themselves a proper ass kicking and/or trigger a man's defensive response. This raises several important issues for the male martial artists in arranging his defense against aggressive females. The first issue is that no matter what you do, or what the circumstance is, you will have to fight the white knight, be it a bystander or the legal system. The second, is that should you be chivalrous yourself, you'll not wish to deal out assloads of damage. This is where things get interesting.

            I've found that there are two types of women that will attack you, women that can fight, and women that can't. A woman that can't fight is safer for all parties. She'll deal only slap damage and can be easily restrained by grabbing the arms. This has the benefit of her not being able to hurt you and you not NEEDING to hurt her. The second type is a woman that can fight. They're dangerous in and of themselves, but they also draw out white knights due to the force needed to stop them. They like to attack first, attack without warning and attack in effective manners. They are dangerous. Like all women, they CAN NOT WIN. However, they can deal damage, and may deal enough damage, should they be left to their own devices, to hurt you.

            I personally have witnessed a number of attacks in this manner. In one encounter, which was nearly fatal, a woman attacked a man from behind, choking him. He countered with a reverse headbutt. Yes Plasma, those work. She was, like the TMA guys promise, maimed. In another incident, a woman attacked a man with multiple blows to the head. He deflected them and began to counter when he was bum rushed by police. In another incident, a woman assaulted a manager and two security guards before being choked. Now, what would I suggest in terms of staying out of jail and remaining safe?

            1. Never underestimate a woman's capacity for violence.

            They should be on your radar just like men. This helps you to:

            2. Shut them down proactively.

            In Starship Troopers, there's a brilliant scene were the drill sargent is struck by a recruit. So they pull the sargent aside and ask him WTF the problem is. Why did he allow himself to be struck? Cause they might have to hang the recruit. When they act up, it can be tempting to treat them with kids gloves. Don't. Treat them aggressively. Let them know they can't win. Then they won't attack you.

            3. Realize that women are MORE prone to violence.

            They're not used to consequences. Men won't swing on you. Why? Cause they don't want to die. Women assume that men won't fight back. Makes them more likely to attack.

            Anyways, that's my thoughts on dealing with violent women without going to jail. Shut it down early and aggressively. Let her know in your stance she can instigate a fight, but that she can't WIN a fight. Then you'll neither have to eat a blow or see a cell.
            You're an idiot.

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              #7
              Originally posted by DCS View Post
              I'm asking myself the same question. Looks like written by somenone who is into the Red Pill Movement.
              I had to Google that. Now I hate you.

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                #8
                I agree with The Villain completely. You motherfuckers are delusional if you think a blue belt chick has more than a tiny chance of beating a man in an actual fight. If a sneaky ass chick broke my arm I'd still be strong enough to beat her to death with the other one. And just because she can go to class and get a triangle on some white belt occasionally, it sure as shit doesn't mean she can do anything effectively after she's taken one good punch to the face. Women vs. men isn't very much different than children vs. men.

                He's also right about the white knighting, for sure. Altercations with chicks are bad news but I have no moral problem with beating the shit out of a violent bitch. But I will avoid it at all cost unless the situation is so serious that I'm willing to risk being attacked by every faggy crusader in the immediate area.

                Since I don't go clubbing and I don't hang out in shitty places, this isn't something I usually have to deal with. I've had to only once in the last few years. I was able to end the situation by talking so much shit in full view of everybody with zero hesitation or remorse that she knew I was serious as a heart attack. Maybe all the dudes around would've stomped me if I had hit her but if she didn't back off she was going to get hurt before I did and she knew it, so she shut the fuck up and I was able to go on about my business.

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                  #9
                  Wait wait wait...

                  What about trannies? Where do they fall on the scale of... Uh... Not bad ass but violent and should be on your radar but can't fight men but you should be careful of?

                  And what if I was kinda drunk and only got a blow job anyway? Would that make me- I mean, could she still fight a man? Or no?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BJMills View Post
                    Wait wait wait...

                    What about trannies? Where do they fall on the scale of... Uh... Not bad ass but violent and should be on your radar but can't fight men but you should be careful of?

                    And what if I was kinda drunk and only got a blow job anyway? Would that make me- I mean, could she still fight a man? Or no?
                    A tranny is a dude. Give us a harder question.

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                      #11
                      What if s/he really really looks like a chick? Takes hormones? Has a nice set of implants? Looks hot?

                      Would that make me ga- I mean, would she still be considered a man? For fighting I said!

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                        #12
                        Guns,
                        Knives,
                        A pair of scissors,
                        First strike initiative.
                        There are some women who are big.
                        There are some women who are strong.
                        There are some women who are fast.
                        When Villain uses the word "never" I think he errs.
                        Now, Men often have denser body composition than Women.
                        And Men are often bigger than Women.
                        I do think that martial arts instructors, even in Combat Sports,
                        often feed all their students a bunch of bullshit regarding what might be reasonable from a self-defense perspective.
                        However, I, like many people on this board, hunt large mammals.
                        If you make them start leaking, or take out their eye, or take out several other useful targets,
                        than a smaller mammal can and will take out a larger mammal.
                        Happens all the time.
                        I saw a tough guy get stabbed just a little bit in the stomach by a girl with some largish craft scissors.
                        It took the bluster and any attempt to be dominant right out of him.
                        Everything is situational, generalizations can be dangerous, you have to assume that street fights can have potentially lethal consequences, and use common sense.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by BJMills View Post
                          What if s/he really really looks like a chick? Takes hormones? Has a nice set of implants? Looks hot?

                          Would that make me ga- I mean, would she still be considered a man? For fighting I said!
                          Well, you're definitely gay. Let's not even pretend that's open for discussion.

                          This shit is simple. If you were born with a dick, you're a dude until the day you die. Period.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by WFMurphyPhD View Post
                            Guns,
                            Knives,
                            A pair of scissors,
                            First strike initiative.
                            There are some women who are big.
                            There are some women who are strong.
                            There are some women who are fast.
                            When Villain uses the word "never" I think he errs.
                            Now, Men often have denser body composition than Women.
                            And Men are often bigger than Women.
                            I do think that martial arts instructors, even in Combat Sports,
                            often feed all their students a bunch of bullshit regarding what might be reasonable from a self-defense perspective.
                            However, I, like many people on this board, hunt large mammals.
                            If you make them start leaking, or take out their eye, or take out several other useful targets,
                            than a smaller mammal can and will take out a larger mammal.
                            Happens all the time.
                            I saw a tough guy get stabbed just a little bit in the stomach by a girl with some largish craft scissors.
                            It took the bluster and any attempt to be dominant right out of him.
                            Everything is situational, generalizations can be dangerous, you have to assume that street fights can have potentially lethal consequences, and use common sense.
                            Case in point, Lorena Bobbit.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BJMills View Post
                              Case in point, Lorena Bobbit.
                              One point that I think Villain makes is that men, particularly trained martial artists or big guys, may underestimate the threat potential of a female.
                              It is a mistake to underestimate anyone.
                              A committed attacker with no regard for their own safety nor legal consequences can do a lot of damage,
                              particularly if they have any training and are armed.

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