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    Alvin Lee Pate- BJJ BB

    I came across this chap and his website today: http://patemodernmartialsciences.weebly.com/

    Free website. Pictures of dead ninja/ samurai on homepage. Extensive list of qualifications. Some of the names of his styles are dubious at best.

    But in the list of qualifications, there it is: Black belt in BJJ. I just thought the website surrounding this sentence was enough to ask the question.

    So I've emailed him to ask his lineage.

    Here's hoping for a reply.

    Email sent and qualifications screenshots here: http://goldax666.imgur.com/

    Enjoy.

    #2
    ok I just looked at the members page and it's basically a list of all Bullshido's classics:

    GM Alvin Lee Pate, Kenner Louisiana-Founder/President of Pate Modern Martial Sciences
    [email protected]
    GM Israel Velez III, New Jersey- Founder/President of American Modern Jujitsu,
    Velez Martial Arts Federation and President of the DLMA..
    www.IsraelVelez.com

    GM Bob Yoder, Grove City OH- Founder/President of Bob Yoder's Kung Fu and Kickboxing Academy...
    www.taishudo.com

    Boxing/MMA Instructor Christopher James Rainey

    GM John Oliver, Wasilla Alaska-Founder/President of Wan Chuan Do Martial Arts
    Systems and President of the United States Wan Chuan Do Association..
    [email protected]


    GM Daniel Rivera, New York, NewYork-Founder/President of Long Tao Combat Federation...
    longtaocombatfederation.com

    GM Leonardo Panzardo, Uruguay -Founder/President of Instituto Kali-Jun Fan, Teaches Jeet Kune Do, Kali and Kali 9 Shots...
    www.kalijunfan.com

    GM Jeffery Oliver, Fort Worth Texas-Founder/President Of Patriot Combatives and Oliver Te...
    patriotcombatives.weebly.com
    [email protected]
    Shihan Tyler Balleck, Linden Michigan - founder/President of Ninpo Goshin Ryu Defensive Arts Center and Founder/Chief Instructor of NGR Tactical Protection...
    [email protected]
    ngrhombu.weebly.com

    Sensei Abdur Whitefeather, South Lyon MI-Founder/President of Michigan Black Scorpion Ninjutsu Society...
    [email protected]

    GM Elder James Lee Hulley Jr., Shreveport La.-Founder/President of God's Will Christian Ministry and Academy of Martial Arts..
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dr-rev-j...phd/25/34a/8b2

    Sifu Warren Noel, New Orleans La. / Progressive Combat JKD Concepts R.A.T Instructor
    [email protected]
    Sifu Otis Stevenson, New Orleans La. /Progressive Fighting Systems Jeet Kune Do Instructor and Founder/President of Progressive Conceptual Fightings Arts...
    [email protected]
    Sensei Kendrick Hughes, New Orleans La. /Black Wolf Combatives & Pate Ryu NinpoTai Jutsu Instructor
    [email protected]
    Sensei Eric Frazier, New Orleans La. /B.W.C, P.R.N.T, Judo, R.A.T, C.G.K.J & Knife Instruct
    [email protected]

    GM James Carlson, Oak Harbor Washigton.- Founder/ President of American Modern Jujitsu 5.0..
    [email protected]

    Sifu/Guru Jason Uga, Shrewsbury, Massachusetts- President/Founder of Universal Grappling Arts... (Street Based Self Defense), Specializes in Jeet Kune Do Concepts, Kali-Silat and Krav Conditioning..
    universalgrapplingarts.com, [email protected]
    GM Aaron St. Louis, Lowell Massachusetts- National Director of Operations at United Martial Arts Against Crime and Founder/Chief Instructor at Smart Defense... Specialties in Street Based Martial Arts and Self Defense
    [email protected]

    Instructor Hector Diaz, North Carolina-2nd Level Full Circle Gung Fu Apprentice Instructor, student in Running Fist Kung Fu, Krav Maga and Combatives Training...

    Shidoshi Geoffrey Spohn, Ostego Michigan- World Director of The Intercontinental Martial Arts Union and President/Founder of the Shinko Budo Kan Dojo and Tatsu Te Ryu Karate Systems...
    [email protected]
    www.tatsuteryu.com
    www.ttrkarate.weebly.com
    www.theimau.com

    Sifu/Guru Angel Ariz, Owner/Chief Instructor of Eastford Fisticuffs Guilde- Full Instructor in Kail-Silat & Jeet Kune Do and Modern Arnis Instructor
    https://www.facebook.com/.../Fisticuffs-G
    [email protected]


    GM Bobby Calvert aka Ninja Bob, Nashville TN- Founder/6th Degree Black Belt of Black Scorpion Ninjutsu Society
    [email protected]

    Sifu/Guru Terry Brady, Senior Instructor in Survival Solutions Jeet Kune Do & Sifu in Taoist Gung Fu
    [email protected]
    [email protected]

    Sigung Tali Yona Quosa Ukuwiyuhi, Founder of Sil-Lum Black Tiger Hung -ga -Gung-Fu Wu Shu Kwoon - Specializes in Southern Chinese Martial arts...

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      #3
      The website is pretty.

      Full of awesome sauce deadly silate, ninjitsu, JKD, OCT ( which is a new craze ... I don't even know what it means but have seen it on 2 questionable flyers and now 3 times online in the last week) and pictures of guys in cammo.

      The website is pretty... did I mention that?

      GM Bob Yoder ---- check
      GM Alvin Lee Pate-- don't know em
      GM Israel Velez III--check
      Sensei Abdur Whitefeather- check
      GM John Oliver-- check

      .... ok I am done this is just making me sad.

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        #4
        See that's it.

        Alvin Lee Pate.

        Normally these guys stick to the obvious BS but he's put it there bold as brass that he is BJJ black belt.

        Now I put it to you that any of these guys who even knows about BJJ MUST know about it's validity and ease of checking lineage right now. So why put it?

        My quickest resolution to this is to say that if he was a legit BJJ BB he wouldn't have all the other tenuous crap on his resume. So he must be fake.

        I await to be proven wrong...

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          #5
          Originally posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
          The website is pretty.

          Full of awesome sauce deadly silate, ninjitsu, JKD, OCT ( which is a new craze ... I don't even know what it means but have seen it on 2 questionable flyers and now 3 times online in the last week) and pictures of guys in cammo.

          The website is pretty... did I mention that?

          GM Bob Yoder ---- check
          GM Alvin Lee Pate-- don't know em
          GM Israel Velez III--check
          Sensei Abdur Whitefeather- check
          GM John Oliver-- check

          .... ok I am done this is just making me sad.
          Did you notice Geoffrey Spohn further down? You must have notice Geoffrey Spohn?

          I noticed Geoffrey Spohn.

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            #6
            I missed Geoffrey Spohn ... I will have to google his silliness later because it isn't ringing any bells.

            Jeffrey Spoon ... hmmm ... yeah nothing is coming to mind. Jeffrey Spawn ... nope ... hmmm.

            Did he do that really awkward video with the plastic nunchucks and wiffle balls?

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              #7
              Originally posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
              I missed Geoffrey Spohn ... I will have to google his silliness later because it isn't ringing any bells.

              Jeffrey Spoon ... hmmm ... yeah nothing is coming to mind. Jeffrey Spawn ... nope ... hmmm.

              Did he do that really awkward video with the plastic nunchucks and wiffle balls?
              Fat. He's really fat. They say inside every fat person there is a thin person waiting to get out.

              Geoffrey spohn ate him.

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                #8
                You don't have to be fit to be tactical and offensive and combative. You just have to be fit enough to pull a trigger from your motorized wheel chair and not ignite your oxygen tank.

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                  #9
                  Can take out way more bad guys if you ignite that oxygen tank though. And it's not suicide bombing if you're a god fearin' gun totin' white male Christian!

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                    #10
                    On his website I counted six skulls, three fists, ten knives, one lion, one wolf and one scorpion. That's a lot of deadly stuff. Plus, he's got a ton of experience, holding a vast number of high rankings in many different arts.

                    I'm thinking the guy pretty much has to be legit.

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                      #11
                      Be glad I took a screenshot of Pates site. He is in the process of taking it down.

                      Says his BJJBB is HONORARY from (no less than) the GOMEZ family! If he means Gomez as in Mauricio that's great as I have a seminar with him in January!
                      I'll pay his email next

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                        #12
                        Email from Pate as written:



                        Hi A Gold , how are you? I just went to my martial science website and saw your email this morning. Sorry I didn't see this sooner, my apologies! I didn't get it through my phone.

                        That BJJ and many of the qualifications listed on that site or honorary. I never earned a black belt in BJJ, the senior instructor awards are also, I'm really only full instructor in those arts. but the BJJ lineage is the Gomez family. I put all of that on there when I first started the site trying to give it some substance and never went back to it once it was done. I'm in the process of taking down all my honorary qualifications and some of the systems information off that site so I'm glad I saw your email asking about it. All I teach now from that site is my Black Wolf Combats program. It's been awhile since I updated anything on it so I'll
                        Will be today. I can see how that can be misleading, again my apologies friend and thanks for the question.:)

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