Going from Krav to BJJ ... some thoughts

[Rzer03]

That's the Krav'iest thing I've ever heard. It's basically saying all I can do is kill, rather than roll. It's like getting PTSD from playing paintball.

Switching cadence and mindset shouldn't be a mission.

Nah not kill just going near 100% all the time. My old instructor absolutely hated 'american' krav that focusses on 'destroying' a threat. Ours was more a simplified form of JJJ.

Great cardio and some of the weapons stuff I had to use IRL (no bragging) so Ive got no regrets. Would it've been better if I started with MMA? Sure but as a first step in the world of martial arts one could do a lot worse.

[Rzer03]

That's the Krav'iest thing I've ever heard. It's basically saying all I can do is kill, rather than roll. It's like getting PTSD from playing paintball.

Switching cadence and mindset shouldn't be a mission.

RBSD does make you paranoid as fuck though.

[goodlun]

I much rather switch on my street mindset when I need to.

Honestly its not to hard to go dirty.
It is hard though to develop all the proper skills that allow you to go dirty if you don't fucking train with some form of sparing instead of just being an asshole that wants to knock the teeth out of your training partner.

[Permalost]

RBSD does make you paranoid as fuck though.

Isn't self defense training supposed to do the opposite of that?

[Rzer03]

Isn't self defense training supposed to do the opposite of that?

It supposed to make you aware of potential dangers but it just ends up in you expecting to get jumped every time you walk into a bar.

RBSD has a negative view of mankind.

[Sam Losco]

I once went full on to attackers balls with garden scissors

THat happened after I slammed him to ground level from 2nd floor wiith a tombstone piledriver though

I htink I was pretty drunk

[Kovacs]

It supposed to make you aware of potential dangers but it just ends up in you expecting to get jumped every time you walk into a bar.

RBSD has a negative view of mankind.

This is why RBSD is so lame. The whole 'paranoia' angle they try and train you for is a marketing ploy for mums and yuppies. Every time you walk into a bar it's more likely that you won't be attacked, than will. Also there are so many variables it's impossible to train specifics. That's why combat sports trumps RBSD in everything, you're training the core principles of fighting, speed, stamina, conditioning, strength and then the techniques based off of that. Not how you can kill two blokes with a pen.

Yes it pays to be aware of surroundings but you don't need to pay someone to explain hypothetical situations which are usually unrealistic anyway. Awareness comes down to not being an idiot.

[Holy Moment]

Welp, I hate to be That Guy, but while OP is pretty obviously newbspazzing, trying to win at rolling, and almost certainly unclear about what comprises progressively resistive and realistic training, I don't see the point in treating him as a troll until he has at least had the time to answer with an arrogant, defensive, and ignorant reply to the initial replies.

It's just so rare that we get a genuine pussy-noob nowadays.

[Holy Moment]

This is why RBSD is so lame. The whole 'paranoia' angle they try and train you for is a marketing ploy for mums and yuppies. Every time you walk into a bar it's more likely that you won't be attacked, than will. Also there are so many variables it's impossible to train specifics. That's why combat sports trumps RBSD in everything, you're training the core principles of fighting, speed, stamina, conditioning, strength and then the techniques based off of that. Not how you can kill two blokes with a pen.

Yes it pays to be aware of surroundings but you don't need to pay someone to explain hypothetical situations which are usually unrealistic anyway. Awareness comes down to not being an idiot.

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[DicaxStultux]

I almost feel ashamed for the krav shit I did, but it was more like old military combatives from the 80's. We actually sparred with limited gear pretty often, and yes, there were dead drills, but also a lot of drills focused on resistance and whatnot. The knife defense blew, though.

I did jujitsu for a while, and I did my damned best to not be the spazz, but, fuck, I came to dread it. We worked out on laid-out mats on a concrete floor with very little room to roll, and whenever we inevitably ended up off the mats, we had to stop, and go back. There were very few adults in the class (3 at most, counting me, another white belt, and a purple belt), and I always got partnered with the same dude. I sucked up my pride for 3 months rolling with this guy, but he outweighed me by at least 50 pounds and had a solid wrestling background. All I could do was pull guard and pray most of the time, and the sensei always seemed to not care for me much and acted like it was an inconvenience whenever I asked for advice.

It really sucks, because my ground game is abysmal. I'd love to learn some good BJJ, but I'm thinking whenever the money's good, I might start going to a local SAMBO gym that's put out some solid fighters.

[Azatdawn]

All of you pussies with your weak ass sport BJJ just can't handle the full power of a Krav guy. "Wah, it's so easy to hyperextend an arm". Well, if that's all the damage you took from someone who was trained to annihilate any attacker, you got lucky.

[Holy Moment]

[Permalost]

With good cups that's actually possible. In fact I have had an all-groin strike class. Receiving and giving. In hindsight it was stupid and dangerous but with the right protection you can go (almost) full tilt on the balls.

What kind of cup allows this? I've had the outside the pants diaper-looking type, and the inside the pants compression shorts + cup. Neither would be good for what you're describing. I'd almost go so far as saying they must not be kicking full power, because a full power kick will still smash your balls through a cup.

[BackFistMonkey]

What kind of cup allows this? I've had the outside the pants diaper-looking type, and the inside the pants compression shorts + cup. Neither would be good for what you're describing. I'd almost go so far as saying they must not be kicking full power, because a full power kick will still smash your balls through a cup.

... and cause serious damage to the groin and upper/inner thighs rather quickly.

[goodlun]

These guys are wearing cups

Looks like it still hurts quite a bit