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  • battheo
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    Rabbit (or anyone else) can you link to footage of the lei tai fights so I can see what you're talking about please?

    Cheers

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  • battheo
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    Rabbit (or anyone else) can you link to footage of the lei tai fights so I can see what you're talking about please?

    Cheers

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  • ghost55
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    Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Don't you start bullshitting too and making shit up. You're pretty sure? I'm positive you are clueless.

    Delusional? Good grief, I've never been more aware of where I was and what I was doing. Delusional is what people like Chen and you and others do day after day on Bullshido.

    Listen, I was 100% aware of what I was getting myself into.

    I have had training to prepare me for that environment, just not nearly as much as other competitors, and not as recent. I admitted that, but now it's become "zero". Whatever.

    And practically no one here is or has ever been prepared for that environment. If you do BJJ, you're not prepared, even if you do kickboxing you're not prepared. Ever kickboxed on an open platform several feet of the ground?

    If anyone here is a current or former Lei Tai champion, let me know OK? Just so everyone can actually listen to an authority instead of listening to you ass clowns like Chen, who harass me and then talk like they're a saint or a doctor.

    But if you want to continue using the video as a means to troll me or my training, tell me I have zero skill or awareness...whatever it's just your own self-serving, sadistic bullshit, Ghost.

    If you want to pretend that because I lost that fight, I would lose to say, you or anybody else here...well that's a bold claim with no substance.
    You did NOTHING in that fight. I don't think you threw a single strike. The closest you came to accomplishing anything was a mediocre attempt at a judo throw. You looked completely fucking lost. Riddle me this: are you actively training with a qualified instructor at this point in time. It's a yes or no question.

    Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    But you don't know, and neither do they, and you can't answer that question until you try it on a person. What you described with work on some people, but not everyone. You know that right?

    That's the theorycrafting, relying on a theoretical truth that you can injure people with that kind of technique, but assuming it works on everyone you will try it on, rather than actually doing it and knowing who you can work it on, which anybody who rolls know is never a sure thing even at the top levels, and that factors like foot, ankle, and leg size and flexibility do make a difference.

    I wear a 13" Wide shoe and my ankle is proportionate. IF you wanted to attack a joint, you'd be stupid for going for my legs.

    Didn't you watch the video? My legs are my best parts. If you really do BJJ you should be able tell the kind of advantages I would have, and why I enjoy BJJ so much.
    Then how about we play that game next time I am in the tristate area (which could be as soon as this holiday season). You clearly do not understand how a heel hook works. At all. I mean I probably couldn't do shit to you with a knee bar, but a heel hook is something else.

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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Well I suppose we could say muscle, tendon and ligament tears in the ankle, knee or hip.
    All of which make some very nice popping sounds.
    I'd say muscle tears would be a bit extreme, however, ligaments for sure. Might depend on how hard and fast it was done, and physiology of the victim.

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  • W. Rabbit
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    Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
    Okay then. Let's play a game: I put you in a heel hook and start twisting. Don't worry, I'm sure your legs are too strong and flexible for it to actually do anything.

    We all know the answer to this question...
    But you don't know, and neither do they, and you can't answer that question until you try it on a person. What you described with work on some people, but not everyone. You know that right?

    That's the theorycrafting, relying on a theoretical truth that you can injure people with that kind of technique, but assuming it works on everyone you will try it on, rather than actually doing it and knowing who you can work it on, which anybody who rolls know is never a sure thing even at the top levels, and that factors like foot, ankle, and leg size and flexibility do make a difference.

    I wear a 13" Wide shoe and my ankle is proportionate. IF you wanted to attack a joint, you'd be stupid for going for my legs.

    Didn't you watch the video? My legs are my best parts. If you really do BJJ you should be able tell the kind of advantages I would have, and why I enjoy BJJ so much.

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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by BKR View Post
    Perhaps the word "snap" is the problem ? A tad hyperbolic maybe ?

    Although I'd describe the sound as more of a "pop", especially for elbows.
    Well I suppose we could say muscle, tendon and ligament tears in the ankle, knee or hip.
    All of which make some very nice popping sounds.

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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Do you even grapple?
    Perhaps the word "snap" is the problem ? A tad hyperbolic maybe ?

    Although I'd describe the sound as more of a "pop", especially for elbows.

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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    And practically no one here is or has ever been prepared for that environment. If you do BJJ, you're not prepared, even if you do kickboxing you're not prepared. Ever kickboxed on an open platform several feet of the ground?
    2 things
    One why are you even talking about BJJ in an event that doesn't include ground fighting? No shit your BJJ isn't going to prepare you for a mostly striking match.
    Two you being unprepared doesn't mean other kick boxers that haven't been up on a platform are unprepared.
    You are far from the benchmark of martial artist stop thinking of yourself as such.

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  • W. Rabbit
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Do you even grapple?
    Not always but when I do, I grapple OK.

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  • W. Rabbit
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    Originally posted by ghost55 View Post
    I think he is really that delusional. I mean this is a man that showed up at what is basically a kick boxing match after doing what I am pretty sure is absolutely zero prep.
    Don't you start bullshitting too and making shit up. You're pretty sure? I'm positive you are clueless.

    Delusional? Good grief, I've never been more aware of where I was and what I was doing. Delusional is what people like Chen and you and others do day after day on Bullshido.

    Listen, I was 100% aware of what I was getting myself into.

    I have had training to prepare me for that environment, just not nearly as much as other competitors, and not as recent. I admitted that, but now it's become "zero". Whatever.

    And practically no one here is or has ever been prepared for that environment. If you do BJJ, you're not prepared, even if you do kickboxing you're not prepared. Ever kickboxed on an open platform several feet of the ground?

    If anyone here is a current or former Lei Tai champion, let me know OK? Just so everyone can actually listen to an authority instead of listening to you ass clowns like Chen, who harass me and then talk like they're a saint or a doctor.

    But if you want to continue using the video as a means to troll me or my training, tell me I have zero skill or awareness...whatever it's just your own self-serving, sadistic bullshit, Ghost.

    If you want to pretend that because I lost that fight, I would lose to say, you or anybody else here...well that's a bold claim with no substance.

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  • ghost55
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    Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Bullshit, has he ever fucking snapped anyone's leg? No. So he (nor you) has no fucking clue how hard it actually is.

    Some people's legs are thicker than others, and some people's joints are more flexible than others.

    My legs are pure stock, and when necessary, I can be Mr. Fantastic.

    I love this concept that people who do a lot of sport BJJ can snap people's legs so easily. Nope.

    That's the same sort of logic that got that BJJ instructor shot and killed. I'm sure he thought his thousands of hours of practice would get that gun away. He was wrong too.
    Okay then. Let's play a game: I put you in a heel hook and start twisting. Don't worry, I'm sure your legs are too strong and flexible for it to actually do anything.

    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Do you even grapple?
    We all know the answer to this question...

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  • JohnnyCache
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    Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Well obviously there may be some humor involved, I really don't believe Dale exploits the rain forest.

    Although he did sell me some rare wood once, it's been very well taken care of since.
    I try not to rely overly on heteronormative humor
    But the next time you slow pitch like this, I'm running with it

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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Bullshit, has he ever fucking snapped anyone's leg? No. So he (nor you) has no fucking clue how hard it actually is.
    Do you even grapple?

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  • W. Rabbit
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    Originally posted by JohnnyCache View Post
    Is this real shit you are posting? Or are you being funny. Just tell.
    Well obviously there may be some humor involved, I really don't believe Dale exploits the rain forest.

    Although he did sell me some rare wood once, it's been very well taken care of since.

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  • W. Rabbit
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    You do understand that leg locks attack the various joints of the legs and not the dense muscles or bones right?
    I don't care how fit you are a toe hold or Toe Press is going to fuck you up.
    Someone like Jordon who has spent countless hours getting and applying heel hooks against opponents that have an in depth knowledge of the mechanics and tactics of leg locks would snap either one of your legs without much trouble.
    Bullshit, has he ever fucking snapped anyone's leg? No. So he (nor you) has no fucking clue how hard it actually is.

    Some people's legs are thicker than others, and some people's joints are more flexible than others.

    My legs are pure stock, and when necessary, I can be Mr. Fantastic.

    I love this concept that people who do a lot of sport BJJ can snap people's legs so easily. Nope.

    That's the same sort of logic that got that BJJ instructor shot and killed. I'm sure he thought his thousands of hours of practice would get that gun away. He was wrong too.

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