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  • W. Rabbit
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    Originally posted by Permalost View Post
    Relevance?
    Groin ripping, obviously.

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  • It is Fake
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    The irony in your post is hilarious.

    First, I answered at least three of your main points concerning victims, use of weapons and personal responsibility. All were in context, something you do not understand.

    See this:
    No, that's not what happened. What actually happened is I basically wrote an essay on this because I know it's a delicate issue and I am trying to explain this whole thing in a detailed and well thought out manner instead of just blurting out some emotional political response.
    I hope you see the irony in calling someone "politically correct" while claiming you were being "thoughtful" writing about a delicate subject. That's the epitome of being politically correct. I mean part of being politically incorrect is saying EXACTLY what you mean, sometimes in an emotional manner. Go read Devil's posts and the responses to him.

    My arguments are very well thought out, you just chose to ignore them all because of your politically correct mindset. You can accept that a guy took the wrong steps to get beat up in a fight but you cannot accept that a woman can also make the same mistake, in your mind women can never be responsible for any actions them commit. Meanwhile I see women make all kinds of mistake with choices they made in their lives and when those choice blow up in their face they cry victim.
    This tells me you didn't read or understand this thread at all. There is an ENTIRE DISCUSSION on this very subject, by multiple people, in this thread. Did you miss the entire awareness, drunk, party, confusion and rape information discussion or are you really that angry?

    Like I said, you are soapboxing.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 6/21/2014 10:43pm, .

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  • NeilG
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    Politically correct would not be on the list of descriptions for most Bullies.

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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by yodave View Post
    My arguments are very well thought out, you just chose to ignore them all because of your politically correct mindset.
    LMAO see and this is why you have failed so very badly at this.
    You don't even know your fucking audience dip shit.

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  • yodave
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    You have yet to write anything compelling. Your telling us that you wrote 3 essays on the matter, why the hell can you still cannot come up with a single cogent well thought out argument?
    My arguments are very well thought out, you just chose to ignore them all because of your politically correct mindset. You can accept that a guy took the wrong steps to get beat up in a fight but you cannot accept that a woman can also make the same mistake, in your mind women can never be responsible for any actions them commit. Meanwhile I see women make all kinds of mistake with choices they made in their lives and when those choice blow up in their face they cry victim.

    This is the only reason why you refuse to look at my arguments, because of your politically correct mindset but that's not going to do you any good when reality kicks in, and that's the reality that many people, women AND men refuse to take responsibility for their actions and choose to blame someone else for their stupidity. I understand that this is just too complicated for many of you to understand but that's still the reality of it. There are many sites and many experts that covers this very well, and they cover all kinds of attack including rape, because they are all connected together, the principles that cover one cover them all. If you are blind to the dangers around you and choose to get suckered by an aggressor, you need to change that behaviour in order to stop being a victim.

    There are so many things you can do to limit your chances of being a victim and the only productive thing to do is to learn how not to be one, but the political correct crowd choose to ignore all of this and focus only on crying about their problems instead of actually doing something about it.

    Feminists typically are absolutely the worst when it comes to this stuff, they flat out refuse to take ANY responsibility for their actions, and have all kinds of stereotypical beliefs. They completely put all responsibility on everyone else and literally will do nothing to prevent being a victim, but again they are not the only ones that have this mentality. Like I said before if ALL else fails there is only the ability to wield a weapon but itisfake choose to only attack that specific point and ignore all the other ones.

    And on top of that all he is very critical of having a weapon which is so stupid, you don't need to take my word for it, there are loads of ressources out there that cover this, bottom line, stop being a victim and take charge of your life, I know many people just cannot understand this and just flat out refuse to listen to me at all.

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  • goodlun
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    Originally posted by yodave View Post
    Blah blah blah
    You have yet to write anything compelling. Your telling us that you wrote 3 essays on the matter, why the hell can you still cannot come up with a single cogent well thought out argument?

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  • yodave
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    Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
    We will disagree.

    We are now going in a circle. You just raised the exact argument I made at the beginning of the thread. Most men do get it and are not "confused."

    The response you keyed in on is out of context.

    Let me help.

    We were at weapons and self defense correct? Then yodave inserted a website and the Lord of the rings: "One ring to rule them all" weapons rant.

    Considering most rapes are done by known perpetrators, the scenario yodave suggested would only occur if we make women paranoid of all men. They would have to carry 24/7 in the scenario he suggested if we believe the statistics.

    You asked for an explanation then took the response out of context.
    No, that's not what happened. What actually happened is I basically wrote an essay on this because I know it's a delicate issue and I am trying to explain this whole thing in a detailed and well thought out manner instead of just blurting out some emotional political response. It is Fake took offense to my posts and without really addressing what I wrote instead went into this tirade about guns and lord of the rings without ever really addressing what I actually wrote.

    He also went on to say that marc mcyoung does not address this issue which is of course asinine. If anyone actually reads what I wrote and then looks itisfake's responses it will be incredibly obvious to them that he is completely avoiding my points and just wants to play a little game here. My suspicion is that he simply cannot accept that we have to take responsibility for our own actions.

    I do not really know what he thinks though because he completely refuses to actually look at what I actually wrote and he is creating this whole circus show around this issue, I suspect I am basically wasting my time here trying to discuss this with him.

    I brought up marc mcyoung because he does a great job of explaining this on his website and in fact in one part of this website he talks about exactly what I mentioned in my posts, but instead of acknowledging that he talks about this issue itisfake literally says that he has nothing to do with this. What does itisfake's behaviour indicate to me?

    It indicated that he flat out refuses to admit that women AND men, all of us, are the only really people that are going to prevent ourselves to be victims, he never debated me on this, not even once and I doubt he ever will, he just plays this game with me with all his little tricks. I don't see what else I should say, I wrote three essays on this and he hasn't even addressed anything I have said at all, instead taking everything I say out of context, creating false argument and lying.
    Last edited by yodave; 6/21/2014 1:09pm, .

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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
    We will disagree.

    We are now going in a circle. You just raised the exact argument I made at the beginning of the thread. Most men do get it and are not "confused."

    The response you keyed in on is out of context.

    Let me help.

    We were at weapons and self defense correct? Then yodave inserted a website and the Lord of the rings: "One ring to rule them all" weapons rant.

    Considering most rapes are done by known perpetrators, the scenario yodave suggested would only occur if we make women paranoid of all men. They would have to carry 24/7 in the scenario he suggested if we believe the statistics.

    You asked for an explanation then took the response out of context.
    I am easily confused for sure. Thanks for the clarification.

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  • It is Fake
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    Originally posted by BKR View Post
    Perhaps, but not as widely implemented as it could be.
    We will disagree.

    It seems to me that it's possible to learn and understand human behavior enough to avoid potential bad situations in general, without being paranoid. Some sort of education should be possible without turning people into fearful paranoids.
    We are now going in a circle. You just raised the exact argument I made at the beginning of the thread. Most men do get it and are not "confused."

    The response you keyed in on is out of context.

    Let me help.

    We were at weapons and self defense correct? Then yodave inserted a website and the Lord of the rings: "One ring to rule them all" weapons rant.

    Considering most rapes are done by known perpetrators, the scenario yodave suggested would only occur if we make women paranoid of all men. They would have to carry 24/7 in the scenario he suggested if we believe the statistics.

    You asked for an explanation then took the response out of context.

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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by NeilG View Post
    Yodog, it's not whether a woman can learn to use a gun, it's whether it would be practical in the real-life situation. Think for like 2 seconds about the kinds of scenarios that have been discussed and whether a gun would be useful there.
    2 seconds ? You said 2 seconds, right?

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  • Permalost
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    Originally posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    On that note, here's Wong Fei Hung's last wife, in her 80's.

    Deadly precise with the steel chain whip.

    Also note groin ripping Tiger techniques.

    Relevance?

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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
    I'd argue this is now in the social consciousness.
    Perhaps, but not as widely implemented as it could be.




    Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
    I'd argue this is now in the social consciousness.
    It isn't the strangers in most cases, it is the friends and acquaintances. This makes it harder, but are you going to teach them to fear everyone including family? Basically, make them paranoid which feeds into the extreme feminism that started this thread. Men are taught not to rape, but since some don't follow rules, learn legit self defense. Instead we hear "All men should learn not to rape."[/quote]

    It seems to me that it's possible to learn and understand human behavior enough to avoid potential bad situations in general, without being paranoid. Some sort of education should be possible without turning people into fearful paranoids.

    [/quote]No, all men are rapists. Basically, you'd have to teach women how to be paranoid of every man on this planet. You know, because all men have the potential to rape. At least that's what extreme feminism is pushing. I wish I could find the meme and show you what I am talking about. If I do, I'll post it.[/QUOTE]

    Horny bastards maybe...Of course, I've known a few women who fit that category too.

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  • yodave
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    If you reread my posts only one of my points was talking about guns, when it reaches that point you're already at the last possible line of defense, it's not the first line of defense and guns weren't the only thing I was talking about, and marc mcyoung does talk about rape on his site, it's a huge site and it covers the whole sphere of things so I am not living in my own little world.

    Also if a "loved one" is trying to rape me I won't hesitate to kill them IF that's what I have to do to prevent being raped, that's an obvious conclusion that I though didn't even need to be brought up. But again I feel you guys are focusing way too much on the gun/weapons. BUT if you have to use a weapon you use it, the court usually looks very kindly towards women defending themselves using deadly force, I am pretty sure about that, anyways I would rather take my chance with the court than being a victim.

    And what kind of fucked up society/justice system do we have if we have to be more concerned with going to jail than defending ourselves from rape? That right there shows me how fucked up the modern justice system is. And I am 100% sure that having a weapon is better than not, that is just left wing liberal bias there at it's most glorious.

    I am advocating for defending women from violence and I am the one being demonized, I pretty much knew this would happen and I think it's really screwed up that I am being painted as the bad guy here. This is a complicated issue but everything I said here is absolute common sense and there's no way you can say anything I wrote here is wrong.

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  • BKR
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    Originally posted by goodlun View Post
    Being thrown on ones head is more likely to produce a KO then a punch anyways
    True, but it takes a fair to high amount of skill to do that on purpose. Anything is going to take a lot of practice to get good at.

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  • W. Rabbit
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    On that note, here's Wong Fei Hung's last wife, in her 80's.

    Deadly precise with the steel chain whip.

    Also note groin ripping Tiger techniques.

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