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    A Ninja Ex-Marine Captain Speaks: What It Means to Be a Warrior

    Just saw this in my Facebook news feed, posted by a retired cop buddy who is a huge Krav Maga RBSD enthusiast.

    What do you guys think of this?

    I'm just gonna leave this here....

    http://lifecoachesblog.com/2008/02/2...-be-a-warrior/

    #2
    Originally posted by lukerawks View Post
    Just saw this in my Facebook news feed, posted by a retired cop buddy who is a huge Krav Maga RBSD enthusiast.

    What do you guys think of this?

    I'm just gonna leave this here....

    http://lifecoachesblog.com/2008/02/2...-be-a-warrior/
    Why don't you tell us what you think.

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      #3
      Originally posted by DerAuslander View Post
      Why don't you tell us what you think.
      I feel a lot safer knowing that ninjas aren't sizing me up, rather, they're protecting me wherever I go. Now I know I can pick a fight with pretty much anyone, cause ninjas totally have my back if things get out of hand.

      ...in all seriousness, it's great to have a positive attitude and all, but isn't this a little dramatic when it comes to training martial arts? Am I doing the world a disservice by trying to lose weight and compete? Am I a coward for not getting involved in the affairs of others? Is it my duty to be a protector in a first world country? Not trying to sound douchey, but isn't this one of the biggest problems with dead martial arts and the messiah complex they perpetuate?

      I don't know....is that the responsibility that's implied with MA expertise? Are MAs protectors, athletes, or both? Is this a fantasy from the RBSD world, or something that's universal whether your training is real or bullshido?

      I was just interested in the general consensus here....thought it would be a good Friday thread....not trying to be (too) snarky in posting that, just kinda hit a weird vibe...

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        #4
        I think that there are plenty of martial artists with such a creed that massively overestimate their justice-administering abilities.

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          #5
          If I were going to be a ninja I guess I'd want to be a ninja superhero. And I will! ... As soon as I get me some adamantium claws and- more importantly- that crazy healing ability. Because I'm thinking ninja superheroes get their asses shot up quite a bit.

          Of course even with the powers I doubt I'd look very fetching in spandex.

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            #6
            Does anyone else find this funny, in a rather morbid way? As in, look at this guy, he's the real deal. Also, he's dead now.

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              #7
              This is where I stopped reading, you know why? Because I knew a massive wall of text would follow with little content. As is usual with a lot of these 'practitioners'.

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                #8
                Originally posted by lukerawks View Post
                Am I a coward for not getting involved in the affairs of others? Is it my duty to be a protector in a first world country?
                No and No.

                This Warrior Creed thing has its place; when Dr. Humphrey was an on-duty Marine fighting for his country, it applied. He was obligated to support and defend the Constitution, and to protect this country from her enemies. Although I respect the fact that he seems to enjoy helping people, there is no obligation to do so.

                People train in martial arts for a variety of reasons and some delude themselves into believing they are super heroes. The really sad part in this story is Jack Hoban has a masters degree in something, yet still believes in ninjers.

                I thought I spelled it wrong, but as I said I'm a mechanic not an English professor.

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                  #9
                  This Jack Hoban thing goes back to 1988.

                  Let me play Devils Advocate for a moment and say that I don't explicitly get "I'm a Ninja Guardian Angel and you can be too..." out of that article. What it may be implicitly stating could be another matter, but that's hard to judge. I'd have to hear/see what he was being told by his "Ninja Master".

                  If all that the author is saying is that this "code" can be useful in preventing you from being a douche I have little issue with it. If the message is simply about changing your frame of mind vs actually getting involved in others problems w/o thinking about it I have nothing to criticize. Since the author wrote:

                  (I think every martial artist has had a grandiose movie-like fantasy of beating down every badass in the room. Heck, I know I’ve had a few.)

                  I give him the benefit of the doubt on that...for now.

                  Don't forget that "protecting" others doesn't necessarily mean jumping into a fist fight. Calling 911, telling the people next to you to clear out (as you do too) because you think the guy in the bar with the gun you saw in his waist band may be sizing up the joint for a robbery, can all be "protecting" others too.

                  I didn't catch any implication that you had to be a martial artist for this to apply. The section comparing the MMA fighter and a Marine sort of redeems the authors opinion IMO. He says that the Marine (who was KIA) was the "Warrior". Note he didn't say that the Marine was a Martial Arts practiconer, or that MA even had to be part of the equation.

                  Where I think these martial artists go off the rails is when they equate any skill with being a "Warrior". H2H, firearms, etc..are only tools and skills. An IPSC shooter thinking that he/she is a "Warrior", SEAL, SWAT Officer, etc is the same as a Martial Artist thinking they can be Batman. My pistol belt doesn't make me a Cop. And my overweight co-worker who can barely qualify with his pistol is no less of a Cop than I am...he could wind up dead chasing a robbery suspect doing his duty just as easily as I could and should be honored for his sacrifice just as much regardless of his skill level.

                  Of course the need/utility of thinking you are a "Warrior" is the question. If a soldier, cop...heck even a fireman/EMT wants to use it to help them to go go into dangerous situations as part of their job that's one thing. Using it as a "self-improvement" meme for any Tom, Dick or Harry is another. But that's just my take on the subject.
                  Last edited by tgace; 3/02/2013 10:30am, .


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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Azatdawn View Post
                    Does anyone else find this funny, in a rather morbid way? As in, look at this guy, he's the real deal. Also, he's dead now.
                    "Winning a martial arts competition isn't warriorship, but god damn if being the blade on the end of the spear of colonialism is!"


                    "The only important elements in any society
                    are the artistic and the criminal,
                    because they alone, by questioning the society's values,
                    can force it to change."-Samuel R. Delany

                    RENDERING GELATINOUS WINDMILL OF DICKS

                    THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST NON-EUCLIDIAN SPLATTERJOUST EVER

                    It seems that the only people who support anarchy are faggots, who want their pathetic immoral lifestyle accepted by the mainstream society. It wont be so they try to create their own.-Oldman34, friend to all children

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                      #11
                      If facing death in service to something isn't an aspect of the job I don't think the title applies.

                      While death in the ring happens...so does does death while driving to work at the widget factory...the risk of death should be in service to your "clan/tribe/nation/community/etc" to apply IMO.

                      And I think some folks ascribe some sort of "nobility" to the title that doesn't necessarily belong. Some Taliban fighter can be as much a "Warrior" for their side as a Marine can be for ours.


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                        #12
                        And they were still "warriors" back when our own government was funding their rise to power ^_^


                        "The only important elements in any society
                        are the artistic and the criminal,
                        because they alone, by questioning the society's values,
                        can force it to change."-Samuel R. Delany

                        RENDERING GELATINOUS WINDMILL OF DICKS

                        THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST NON-EUCLIDIAN SPLATTERJOUST EVER

                        It seems that the only people who support anarchy are faggots, who want their pathetic immoral lifestyle accepted by the mainstream society. It wont be so they try to create their own.-Oldman34, friend to all children

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hedgehogey View Post
                          And they were still "warriors" back when our own government was funding their rise to power ^_^
                          True.

                          Just for conversational purposes...

                          When it comes to warfighting and being a warrior is being an “ethical or good person” really a prerequisite? As long as the warrior accomplishes his mission, obeys orders and follows the laws of war he is a “good” warrior. The way I see it, dedication to the “art and craft” of war, technical and tactical proficiency, skill at arms and courage in battle are the “core” of being a warrior. Ethical and moral expectations of the warrior are a variable that can change depending on the culture, historic period and political history we are looking at.

                          Being a “hero” or a villain is a subjective thing. Hitler WAS a hero to the German people, at least for a while. He was a villain to others. There is no doubt that the Mongols, the Vikings, the German SS, were excellent warriors. One can desire to emulate their military skill, however I would hope that nobody would admire the rest of their actions.


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                            #14
                            Personally I find the word frays at its edges. It makes for good copy but comes off like you actually took that Wolves/Dogs/Sheepdogs essay seriously if you say it in real life. Ethics, I think, is an independent subject and applies no more or less to people who fight.


                            "The only important elements in any society
                            are the artistic and the criminal,
                            because they alone, by questioning the society's values,
                            can force it to change."-Samuel R. Delany

                            RENDERING GELATINOUS WINDMILL OF DICKS

                            THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST NON-EUCLIDIAN SPLATTERJOUST EVER

                            It seems that the only people who support anarchy are faggots, who want their pathetic immoral lifestyle accepted by the mainstream society. It wont be so they try to create their own.-Oldman34, friend to all children

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                              #15
                              I, for one, wouldn't mind being able to ride like a Mongol, ship-build like a Viking and rock cool apparel like a member of the SS. Skill is skill, and there may not be as neat a division as some might think between military-related actions and "the rest".

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