Why do YOU think Aikido Sucks??

[Pomplemousse]

Alright, I'm not trying to set up a kumbaya session for all of the Aikidokas or anything, but I really honestly want to know why everyone hates Aikido. I just started Aikido, so I'm pretty much to be counted as clueless, but seriously, what is the reasoning behind all of this talk of "Aikido sucks" or "Aikido isn't applicable" or even "Aikido is for fat lazy buns who see it and automatically gravitate toward it because they think they can do it!". I'll be honest with you. I probably, well, definitely, would have done Judo if it was offered in my area, but I came around to really appreciate the idea of Aikido.
So what's all this talk of negativity when it comes to the "lame cousin" in the martial arts family? Why, in your experience, do you think Aikido sucks?

[Omega Supreme]

Alright, I'm not trying to set up a kumbaya session for all of the Aikidokas or anything, but I really honestly want to know why everyone hates Aikido. I just started Aikido, so I'm pretty much to be counted as clueless, but seriously, what is the reasoning behind all of this talk of "Aikido sucks" or "Aikido isn't applicable" or even "Aikido is for fat lazy buns who see it and automatically gravitate toward it because they think they can do it!". I'll be honest with you. I probably, well, definitely, would have done Judo if it was offered in my area, but I came around to really appreciate the idea of Aikido.
So what's all this talk of negativity when it comes to the "lame cousin" in the martial arts family? Why, in your experience, do you think Aikido sucks?

Do you have a blackbelt? Not in Aikido, in anything else.

[DerAuslander]

Why, in your experience, do you think Aikido sucks?

I don't.

I do however think you suck.

[Soldiermedic]

See you can appreciate the "idea" of aikido all you want, this does not make it an applicable mechanism for self defense.

The main ideas behind "style bashing" on bullshido is "does it work?" and "can you train with resistance?"

Aikido fails both of these tests. If your goal is to get off the couch and get the blood flowing, maybe your club is fine. However, if you are taking it for a self defense purpose, you'd be better off running a couple of miles everyday(actually, if your goal is to get off the couch and get your blood flowing, running is probably a better alternative for that too).

What it comes down to is that aikido relies on too much mysticism and hakama envy, and not enough quantifiable evidence of it working to help defend against assault.

I trained in Daito-Ryu aikijitsu, and while from what I've read it was a better school than most, it still left me woefully unprepared for when I finally got into real grappling(judo & bjj).

[Pomplemousse]

Do you have a blackbelt? Not in Aikido, in anything else.

No sir, I do not

[Pomplemousse]

Thanks ;D you too

[Permalost]

There's a million different threads about all the nuanced reasons that bullies don't like aikido.

[Omega Supreme]

No sir, I do not

Then in truth Aikido sucks for you. Aikido was never designed to teach beginners and you have no foundation to be able to use it. I use Aikido principals all the time but I'm also a blackbelt in several different systems.

We here pretty much think any dogmatic approach to a martial art pretty much sucks. Especially when the system is 95% theoretical and conceptual.

[Diesel_tke]

I think the question is flawed. Sucks at what? Depends on what you are taking it for, how you train in it, and what you hope to get out if it. I've used Aikido techniques in law enforcement that worked very well.

So please simplify the question.

[Omega Supreme]

I think the question is flawed. Sucks at what? Depends on what you are taking it for, how you train in it, and what you hope to get out if it. I've used Aikido techniques in law enforcement that worked very well.

So please simplify the question.

You suck.

[Sri Hanuman]

You suck.

Your Koan sucks.

Especially when the system is 95% theoretical and conceptual.

And you just raped like, all of CMA. Especially Taiji. I challange you to Zhan Zhuang.

[Pomplemousse]

See you can appreciate the "idea" of aikido all you want, this does not make it an applicable mechanism for self defense.

The main ideas behind "style bashing" on bullshido is "does it work?" and "can you train with resistance?"

Aikido fails both of these tests. If your goal is to get off the couch and get the blood flowing, maybe your club is fine. However, if you are taking it for a self defense purpose, you'd be better off running a couple of miles everyday(actually, if your goal is to get off the couch and get your blood flowing, running is probably a better alternative for that too).

What it comes down to is that aikido relies on too much mysticism and hakama envy, and not enough quantifiable evidence of it working to help defend against assault.

I trained in Daito-Ryu aikijitsu, and while from what I've read it was a better school than most, it still left me woefully unprepared for when I finally got into real grappling(judo & bjj).

Thank you for youra reply :D most people tell me Aikido sucks, and when I ask them why they think what they do, they can't explain themselves. So thanks again for giving a legit response

[Vieux Normand]

Aikido renders non-French-speakers incapable of spelling "grapefruit" in French.

If OP took some sweaty, ape-like MA, he'd know it was "pamplemousse".

[Pomplemousse]

There's a million different threads about all the nuanced reasons that bullies don't like aikido.

>.< Sorry!

[Permalost]

Here's some links:

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch...p/t-92834.html
From Vorpal in this one: " Low percentage techniques practiced in a compliant manner against unrealistic attacks (holy crap, this guy is running full speed at me and is about to grab my wrist!)."

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch...p/t-76117.html

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55865

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch.../t-105404.html

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/arch...p/t-25086.html

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=116912

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115441