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    Crazy Monkey Defense and the Hunchback Stance??

    I checked out a school last night called SwiftKick Martial Arts. http://swiftkickma.com/ The school is associated with a program or style called Crazy Monkey. It is not Kung Fu despite the name. It seems like an MMA style based on boxing.
    Here is a youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyMonkeyDefense

    I participated in a class last night and it was ok (the place is a little expensive for my budget). We were doing foundational stuff, proper form for jab and cross and hitting focus pads.

    They use a stance called the hunchback stance. It is a very defensive stance. Your hands are up by your eyebrows, elbows in tight, shoulders up, midsection tight and back hunched over a little bit. It was uncomfortable as all shit. The weirdest part was the way we had our hips kinda forward. My upper back is actually sore today. Has anyone ever heard of this style? Any feedback or comments are appreciated.

    #2
    I've done one seminar with a guy who trained with Rodney King, some of the material has been useful to me. Beyond that I can't say a lot about it.

    As far as I am aware Rodney King does produce legit fighters though, and they do train alive full contact.

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      #3
      My understanding is that this is more of a type of boxing stance or defense than a "style" unto itself. Like an alterative to doing peek-a-boo or philly shuffle.

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        #4
        "Reluctant Warrior" is not what I would consider a selling point. Otherwise looks like a typical MMA gym.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Kali11324 View Post
          Your hands are up by your eyebrows, elbows in tight, shoulders up, midsection tight and back hunched over a little bit. It was uncomfortable as all shit. The weirdest part was the way we had our hips kinda forward. My upper back is actually sore today. Has anyone ever heard of this style? Any feedback or comments are appreciated.
          From what I'm getting out of this description is that this is from someone who knows what a basic boxing stance looks like but doesn't actually know it. Leaning forward is never a good idea in my eyes; the lean takes away for your ability to use your shoulders and torso to get power for a punch and it would open up your chin due to the need to keep your eyes up to see your target.

          A picture or some other equivalent would help with judgement though but out of that description, not good.

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            #6
            Originally posted by P Marsh View Post
            A picture or some other equivalent would help with judgement though but out of that description, not good.




            Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
            –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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              #7
              Originally posted by Kali11324 View Post
              I participated in a class last night and it was ok (the place is a little expensive for my budget). We were doing foundational stuff, proper form for jab and cross and hitting focus pads.
              Not to derail this but how did the place compare to the other place you where at? Have you had a chance to make it on down to Judo America yet?
              Of the single rapier fight between valiant men, having both skill, he that is the best wrestler, or if neither of them can wrestle, the strongest man most commonly kills the other, or leaves him at his mercy.
              –George Silver, Paradoxes of Defence

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                #8
                The third video up there is most like what we were doing. We had boxing gloves on so the hand position what a little different. The way our instructor had us do though was more hunched over. His torso was a "C". I wasn't too comfortable with it and I'm a bit skeptical. I can see how it is very defensive but it felt very awkward at the time.

                This school is much better than my current school and much more expensive. It is definitely much closer to what we are looking for in a school. We have made the decision to spend this month shopping around looking at schools. I do plan on making my way down to Judo America though. I am not sure if their schedule works for us though.

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                  #9
                  If I saw what I think I saw in those vids, you have a guy with open elbows, just asking to have his head uppercut into low orbit--after his splayed fingers are pounded into his head and broken by something like one or two well-placed overhands. But hey, free country and all...

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                    #10
                    Two great examples of CMD.

                    http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7523/q0014xp.gif

                    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T...tysfaction.gif

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                      #11
                      I'm a noob, but to me that looks just like what we learn to do in Muay Thai if you're covering instead of parrying, you lift your arms high like you're grabbing your ear, and you lean into the strike (if I am remembering correctly).

                      Grain of salt though, my defense is shitty.

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                        #12
                        There are similar blocks in FMA. The oportunity is there that the oponent spikes thier own fist on your elbow, or their bicep gets spiked if they throw a wide hook. Really your primary goal is to block the strike but it's a lucky bonus at times.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by wikidbounce View Post
                          My abs are sore and this made laugh, so it was like "ha ha . . . ooowww"

                          My impression of this place is that it's solid school, but even with all the deals he was willing to cut us, I just can't afford it at this time.

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                            #14
                            Stupid white belt question...In second vid, obtains over/under after dodging a punch....Y U no choke? Y U hip thrust poor man?

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