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    #16
    Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
    I think people are getting confused because they are so focused on attacking me and picking appart my statements.
    You are getting fine advice. If you are going to up your insults then what do you expect? Not all gyms are the same, obviously, and you can find one with the TMA cultured BJJ that contains the seedy, dorky, uncouth, egoist, douchebags you like.

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      #17
      Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
      You are getting fine advice. If you are going to up your insults then what do you expect? Not all gyms are the same, obviously, and you can find one with the TMA cultured BJJ that contains the seedy, dorky, uncouth, egoist, douchebags you like.
      I am not upping the insult level; I would say that I am far from insulting. I even threw you the laurel a few times by conceding and clarifying my point. I even went so far as to agree with you that I am intimidated by the MMA crowd. I don't see how I am escalating anything. On the contrary, you, sir, have been attempting to escalate things and have been very confrontational in nature.

      All any unbiased observer has to do is read over this post to see the truth of my point.

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        #18
        Are they inviting you down to the crack den for a gang rape? If not, maybe try just going for a drink with them, maybe? Perhaps they're not as bad as you've assumed based on your reflexive fear of the unknown.

        Unless you have some concrete grounds for imagining them to be dangerous and morally deficient people? Or unless you're just looking for an excuse to scurry back to your comfort zone. Either way, what do you expect this board to say, exactly? Yes, we are all horrendous arseholes, best stay away from us.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
          ...All any unbiased observer has to do is read over this post to see the truth of my point.
          I see passive aggressiveness and projection.

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            #20
            Gen-Y = douche baggery

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              #21
              Originally posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
              Are they inviting you down to the crack den for a gang rape? If not, maybe try just going for a drink with them, maybe? Perhaps they're not as bad as you've assumed based on your reflexive fear of the unknown.

              Unless you have some concrete grounds for imagining them to be dangerous and morally deficient people? Or unless you're just looking for an excuse to scurry back to your comfort zone. Either way, what do you expect this board to say, exactly? Yes, we are all horrendous arseholes, best stay away from us.
              lol, this was a harsh comment, but you had some good points. My discomfort may have to do with me just being a straight pussy - avoiding stepping out of my comfort zone. I am willing to admit that. However the response I was looking for may have been an answer to my question: is this culture persistent across all schools? It Is Fake answered this question between his angry flames at me.

              But while on this discussion, I have been curious about Judo for some time and was hoping to hear from someone who had taken Judo and BJJ, if they could contrast the cultures surrounding the two arts, and comment on the current state of Judo (this may end in an unproductive discussion but I am genuinely curious) - is quality Judo instruction readily available in california? Is Judo as effective as BJJ, and is it a viable alternative?

              thanks.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
                I am not upping the insult level;
                Of course you aren't:

                Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
                Hi all,

                the white belts tend to be MMA fanboys and creeps who are attracted to BJJ due to their obsession with violence;
                Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
                In my MMA training I am finding myself training with low lives with more serious problems,
                Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
                I was just wondering if this other kind of douche bag is a common problem in all BJJ and how one might deal with it.

                All any unbiased observer has to do is read over this post to see the truth of my point.
                The problem exists everywhere in almost all schools. You have that silly TMA indoctrination and you are being prejudiced. AN unbiased reader would wonder why you are passing judgment on people you have never met with socially.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
                  lol, this was a harsh comment, but you had some good points. My discomfort may have to do with me just being a straight pussy - avoiding stepping out of my comfort zone. I am willing to admit that. However the response I was looking for may have been an answer to my question: is this culture persistent across all schools? It Is Fake answered this question between his angry flames at me.

                  But while on this discussion, I have been curious about Judo for some time and was hoping to hear from someone who had taken Judo and BJJ, if they could contrast the cultures surrounding the two arts, and comment on the current state of Judo (this may end in an unproductive discussion but I am genuinely curious) - is quality Judo instruction readily available in california? Is Judo as effective as BJJ, and is it a viable alternative?

                  thanks.
                  I've done Judo for 32 years. I dont' recall running into a club where most beginners were as you describe. What people do after class is their business, certain behavior is usually expected in Judo class, being a douche is not one of them. Not when I'm running the class, anyway.

                  The only BJJ school I have been too had exactly zero problems with respect. The culture is not exactly the same as Judo, I suppose, not being so Japan centric (some judo clubs can be positively japanophile). I'd say it will depend on which BJJ school you go to.

                  There is plenty of Judo instruction in California, way more than in places like Idaho or the midwest, LOL.

                  As to effectiveness, it depends on what you mean. Both are arts that train in an alive fashion, and are similar in terms of groundwork. Judo focuses more on throwing, BJJ more on groundwork. BJJ and Judo cross train easily.
                  Falling for Judo since 1980

                  "You are wrong. Why? Because you move like a pregnant yak and talk like a spazzing 'I train UFC' noob." -DCS

                  "The best part of getting you worked up is your backpack full of irony and lies." -It Is Fake

                  "Banning BKR is like kicking a Quokka. It's foolishness of the first order." - Raycetpfl

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
                    Of course you aren't:








                    The problem exists everywhere in almost all schools. You have that silly TMA indoctrination and you are being prejudiced. AN unbiased reader would wonder why you are passing judgment on people you have never met with socially.
                    point taken. I didn't think about who I might have been insulting outside of this forum.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by BKR View Post
                      I've done Judo for 32 years. I dont' recall running into a club where most beginners were as you describe. What people do after class is their business, certain behavior is usually expected in Judo class, being a douche is not one of them. Not when I'm running the class, anyway.

                      The only BJJ school I have been too had exactly zero problems with respect. The culture is not exactly the same as Judo, I suppose, not being so Japan centric (some judo clubs can be positively japanophile). I'd say it will depend on which BJJ school you go to.

                      There is plenty of Judo instruction in California, way more than in places like Idaho or the midwest, LOL.

                      As to effectiveness, it depends on what you mean. Both are arts that train in an alive fashion, and are similar in terms of groundwork. Judo focuses more on throwing, BJJ more on groundwork. BJJ and Judo cross train easily.
                      Thanks for the informative reply. By effectiveness, I guess I mean that with training, a Judoka stands a chance against a resisting fighter from another style. Particularly, how do Judoka and BJJ practitioners compare in a fight?

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                        #26
                        Man, what the flying fuck? You're pissed off because douches want to be your friend? Fucking hell, sometimes this planet fucks with me. So you're judging people, based on their appearance, who you train with in the same sport that you are a beginner in and they are the same people looking to befriend and socialise with you?

                        I have news for you, son, you're the douche.
                        GET A RED BELT OR DIE TRYIN'.
                        Originally posted by Devil
                        I think Battlefields and I had a spirited discussion once about who was the biggest narcissist. We both wanted the title but at the end of the day I had to concede defeat. Can't win 'em all.
                        Originally posted by BackFistMonkey
                        I <3 Battlefields...

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Buddhist_Budoka View Post
                          Thanks for the informative reply. By effectiveness, I guess I mean that with training, a Judoka stands a chance against a resisting fighter from another style. Particularly, how do Judoka and BJJ practitioners compare in a fight?
                          For the love of Dog, not again...

                          Judo is trained primarily, in the US and Canada, at least, as a combat sport. As far as I know, BJJ is the same, although some branches of BJJ have a more explicit self defense theme as well.

                          As far as a "fight" goes, what do you mean? What rules? Which martial art as opponent? What level of judoka/jiujitsuka? Self defense? MMA?

                          I suggest you try out both, different schools, and see which one you like best, or better yet, do both.

                          We may be able to help you find a dojo (Judo) or school (BJJ) in your area if you like.
                          Falling for Judo since 1980

                          "You are wrong. Why? Because you move like a pregnant yak and talk like a spazzing 'I train UFC' noob." -DCS

                          "The best part of getting you worked up is your backpack full of irony and lies." -It Is Fake

                          "Banning BKR is like kicking a Quokka. It's foolishness of the first order." - Raycetpfl

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by battlefields View Post
                            Man, what the flying fuck? You're pissed off because douches want to be your friend? Fucking hell, sometimes this planet fucks with me. So you're judging people, based on their appearance, who you train with in the same sport that you are a beginner in and they are the same people looking to befriend and socialise with you?

                            I have news for you, son, you're the douche.
                            The irony of someone with "Buddhist" in their screen name hasn't escaped me, that's for sure. And "Budoka" as well.
                            Last edited by BKR; 7/11/2012 7:22pm, . Reason: further thoughts
                            Falling for Judo since 1980

                            "You are wrong. Why? Because you move like a pregnant yak and talk like a spazzing 'I train UFC' noob." -DCS

                            "The best part of getting you worked up is your backpack full of irony and lies." -It Is Fake

                            "Banning BKR is like kicking a Quokka. It's foolishness of the first order." - Raycetpfl

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by battlefields View Post
                              Man, what the flying fuck? You're pissed off because douches want to be your friend? Fucking hell, sometimes this planet fucks with me. So you're judging people, based on their appearance, who you train with in the same sport that you are a beginner in and they are the same people looking to befriend and socialise with you?

                              I have news for you, son, you're the douche.
                              Am I a douche for avoiding people? maybe indirectly, but its really due to the fact that I am shy and distrusting of people. I don't know if that makes me douch-y.

                              But thanks for jumping on the bandwagon and insulting me all the same.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by BKR View Post
                                For the love of Dog, not again...

                                Judo is trained primarily, in the US and Canada, at least, as a combat sport. As far as I know, BJJ is the same, although some branches of BJJ have a more explicit self defense theme as well.

                                As far as a "fight" goes, what do you mean? What rules? Which martial art as opponent? What level of judoka/jiujitsuka? Self defense? MMA?

                                I suggest you try out both, different schools, and see which one you like best, or better yet, do both.

                                We may be able to help you find a dojo (Judo) or school (BJJ) in your area if you like.
                                Again, thanks for the info.

                                The rules would be in a real life situation where the victor is the one who incapacitates the opponent. The levels of each fighter would be the same, or as similar as possible.

                                I am stuck at my current gym/school for now, since i signed a 3 month contract for the summer, but that's okay. In the future, however, I might just take you/this community up on that for finding a good judo school.

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